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QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 15, 2012 -> 04:51 PM)
Omar: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...amp;position=SS

Ozzie: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...amp;position=SS

 

Smith and Vizquel had the same wOBA at .311. But Smith was considered 10% more productive (wRC+) because league offense was much less potent in his era. These guys played 10 years apart.

Ozzie came first but their careers overlapped, there used to be discussions comparing the two. Regardless, it just comes down to who you watched who was better, and certainly you can make the case for the wizard as being better but it's like comparing Mantle to Mays - they were both great.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 15, 2012 -> 04:55 PM)
No way. He gets in for sure.

 

I thought so too until Roberto Alomar was somehow 20+% more worthy on his second year than his first. The gatekeepers of the HOF are bitter old white haired baseball writers who would prefer if games were still in black and white. They think NOBODY in the modern era of baseball is HOF worthy. Not even Cal Ripken Jr. (98.53% -- really who would leave him off?!)

 

Also, for the "story", they will want Maddux and Glavine going in together. Can't have Frank in there messing that up.

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QUOTE (Cali @ Aug 15, 2012 -> 06:58 PM)
I thought so too until Roberto Alomar was somehow 20+% more worthy on his second year than his first. The gatekeepers of the HOF are bitter old white haired baseball writers who would prefer if games were still in black and white. They think NOBODY in the modern era of baseball is HOF worthy. Not even Cal Ripken Jr. (98.53% -- really who would leave him off?!)

 

Also, for the "story", they will want Maddux and Glavine going in together. Can't have Frank in there messing that up.

 

Alomar spit on an ump. What did Frank do?

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