fathom Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 2, 2012 -> 01:02 AM) May have been better off with Axelrod than trading for Liriano. KW really needed to find a pitcher during the waiver period. As soon as Floyd went down, there should have been a rush to find someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 They might as well pull him now and put in Santiago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 08:04 PM) They might as well pull him now and put in Santiago. Santiago might still be needed for a spot start though, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 I still wouldn't mind keeping Liriano around next year, but I wouldn't pay much for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 07:02 PM) Then they don't deserve anything Typical Sox. They don't man up in big games. Been like that for years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 06:02 PM) He won't be back next year with the Sox Still, he's pitched pretty darned well in 5/7 starts. That's not bad at all for a 5th starter and someone who basically cost us nothing in return. Without him, where would we be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 2, 2012 -> 01:04 AM) But so many people told me that was a great idea and I should ignore his >5 ERA. He hasn't been bad, it's just Tigers are an awful match-up for him. He should have been slotted to face the Twins. At least we didn't give up much for him, as it would have hurt more to give up a ton for Greinke and have the entire team collapse around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Wow, an out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 08:06 PM) He hasn't been bad, it's just Tigers are an awful match-up for him. He should have been slotted to face the Twins. At least we didn't give up much for him, as it would have hurt more to give up a ton for Greinke and have the entire team collapse around him. I'd call 5 walks in 2.1 innings "He's been bad", I don't care who the matchup is. Throw a **** strike and see if they can hit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 07:06 PM) Wow, an out. Unfortunately, it was productive. I'm jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 If he doesn't make some pitches right here this game is about to be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Sox aren't just losing games at Detroit, they're not even coming close to winning games there. No lead for more than a half an inning since the Dunn homer off of Valverde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 07:07 PM) Sox aren't just losing games at Detroit, they're not even coming close to winning games there. No lead for more than a half an inning since the Dunn homer off of Valverde. The new Metrodome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 07:07 PM) Sox aren't just losing games at Detroit, they're not even coming close to winning games there. No lead for more than a half an inning since the Dunn homer off of Valverde. Feels like last season. At the beginning of the season, we were road warriors and struggling at home, now it's the other way around. Edited September 2, 2012 by Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 06:04 PM) KW really needed to find a pitcher during the waiver period. As soon as Floyd went down, there should have been a rush to find someone. I don't think ANYONE, let alone KW, expected that Axelrod could go out and basically throw 5 quality starts in 7 tries. That's revisionist thinking, based on how he's pitched a couple of times out this year. He's also been lit up like a Christmas tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 06:05 PM) I still wouldn't mind keeping Liriano around next year, but I wouldn't pay much for him. It will be better for Coop to work with a guy in ST than after the trade deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (Caesar @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 07:05 PM) Typical Sox. They don't man up in big games. Been like that for years now. A staple of this GM's teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 07:07 PM) Sox aren't just losing games at Detroit, they're not even coming close to winning games there. No lead for more than a half an inning since the Dunn homer off of Valverde. The Sox are mentally weak. They do this always. They let teams get inside their heads. It isn't surprising at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 One more out to stay alive in this game. Garcia is dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 2, 2012 -> 12:08 AM) Feels like last season. So the Sox lose by 15 tomorrow? The funny thing is that even if that happens, they still have to rebound immediately on Monday vs the Twins. Ventura's legacy for this season could easily be made/broken by how the team looks after this series is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 07:08 PM) A staple of this GM's teams. I agree. They dont play to win, they play not to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 08:04 PM) KW really needed to find a pitcher during the waiver period. As soon as Floyd went down, there should have been a rush to find someone. Were they going to bench Liriano, Peavy, Sale, or Quintana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Jeez AJ, if you're going to get it in foul territory, don't fake the throw after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 07:09 PM) Were they going to bench Liriano, Peavy, Sale, or Quintana? They need to shut Q down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2012 -> 07:10 PM) Jeez AJ, if you're going to get it in foul territory, don't fake the throw after it. He has been an absolute wreck for weeks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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