NorthSideSox72 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 26, 2012 -> 11:53 AM) Verlander is hurting? You mean in his road performances for much of the 2nd half, because his stuff is fine... QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 26, 2012 -> 12:26 PM) He is actually hurt. Injured his LEFT (non-throwing) shoulder on a weird play on the mound. Says it still hurts, looked in a fair amount of pain at the time, but is pitching through it (or planning to). Who knows if it will actually effect him. Just like there is no telling how Sale and Quintana might do in their remaining appearances, if they have indeed hit a wall of sorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 This race reminds me of the Monthy Python skit where they held a race full of competitors with no general sense of direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Royals are going 6-man, so the Tigers will get the usual suspects the final series. 155- Porcello vs Guthrie 156- Fister vs Mendoza 157- Scherzer vs Diamond 158- Verlander vs Walters 159- Sanchez vs Hendriks 160- Porcello vs Chen 161- Fister vs Guthrie 162- Scherzer vs Mendoza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 26, 2012 -> 09:48 AM) This 100%. It's not a motivation problem. This team is just out of gas. I think alot of it comes down to the wrist injury to PK. He had the "minor" surgery but really hasn't been the same. With the rest of the offense being weak, they've really missed his production. Once the pitching began to wear down, the offense couldn't make up for it. Hopefully next year Sale and Quintana are stronger. Although there are some studies that show the huge jump in innings this year will adversely effect their performance next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 QUOTE (ptatc @ Sep 26, 2012 -> 04:04 PM) I think alot of it comes down to the wrist injury to PK. He had the "minor" surgery but really hasn't been the same. With the rest of the offense being weak, they've really missed his production. Once the pitching began to wear down, the offense couldn't make up for it. Hopefully next year Sale and Quintana are stronger. Although there are some studies that show the huge jump in innings this year will adversely effect their performance next year. That's going to be the key point of argument (and agreement for some) during the off-season about what to realistically expect from Sale and Quintana next year, among others. Some will also argue that Reed lost his fastball and slider from overuse, but not sure I'm buying that one or not. The way things are ending right now, hard to imagine you can automatically pencil in Reed as your closer for 2013 again. Then you're going to have some of the same issues with putting Hector Santiago well above his career numbers for IP as well if they decide to go ahead and put him into the starting rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 26, 2012 -> 02:19 PM) Injured his LEFT (non-throwing) shoulder on a weird play on the mound. Says it still hurts, looked in a fair amount of pain at the time, but is pitching through it (or planning to). Who knows if it will actually effect him. Just like there is no telling how Sale and Quintana might do in their remaining appearances, if they have indeed hit a wall of sorts. The catcher went to throw the ball back to him. There were men on base at the time. When Gerald Laird went to throw the ball, his hand collided with the umpire's hand and caused him to throw a ground ball back to Verlander. Verlander wasn't paying close attention and so didn't realize Laird's hand had hit the umpire's hand and that the umpire had immediately called time out. Seeking to avoid a bad throw allowing runners to advance, Verlander sort of awkwardly dove at the ball and landed on the wrist of his glove hand, which caused him to strain his left, non-throwing shoulder. Definitely a bizarre occurrence. He continued pitching, but yeah, it did appear as though it might have hurt a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 That Verlander injury was so bizarre. It was kind of funny though, he looked like he did this mad dive for no reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 CHW 1-6, DET 4-3 their last 7. Definitely have to pick it up if we want to make the playoffs. (Yes, this serves as the understatement of the week). In reality, DET playing on the road to end the season and the fact that Scherzer's clearly hurting a bit (still) are the main two reasons for hope. Not really my fervent belief in the White Sox putting together a 6-2 run of great play (not only because of the offense, but the starting pitching as well). We'll see. We have always played TB tight games and been a spur in their sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 White Sox: 9 (7 games left) Tigers: 7 (7 games left) Thursday Games: KC (Mendoza) @ DET (Fister) 12:05 TB (Shields) @ CWS Peavy) 7:10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 White Sox: 9 (7 games left) Tigers: 6 (6 games left) TB (Shields) @ CWS Peavy) 7:10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 White Sox: 9 (6 games left) Tigers: 5 (6 games left) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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