sunofgold Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Peavy or Jones. so far Jake has 9 and Nate has 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I'm sure I speak for most of Soxtalk when I say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 This thread should answer greg's question about topic starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 This reminds me of my Dunn vs. Lillibomb post last year, for most home runs. Most thought I was nuts.. but Lillibomb hit more! HA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 QUOTE (TitoMB @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 12:00 PM) This reminds me of my Dunn vs. Lillibomb post last year, for most home runs. Most thought I was nuts.. but Lillibomb hit more! HA! I think the Vulture will do it. And he will probably pick up a few wins in games that peavy starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Not too long ago, pitchers were judged by their win/loss record. Now not so much. Jake's win total is very low for a guy who pitches so deep into games because of his throwing a fit whenever he gets taken out. He's a good starting pitcher. Not so sure he's an All Star even though he made the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 01:12 PM) Not too long ago, pitchers were judged by their win/loss record. Now not so much. Jake's win total is very low for a guy who pitches so deep into games because of his throwing a fit whenever he gets taken out. He's a good starting pitcher. Not so sure he's an All Star even though he made the team. Im 99% sure you never looked at the stats, which say he has had a helluva season and most definitely deserved that AS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Peavy has been fantastic this year and has truly been jobbed out of quite a few wins. Between the team scoring very few runs in quite a few of his good games and the bullpen blowing some big leads, he's been completely robbed of a good # of victories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 It's just proof that one season isn't a valid sample size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 01:37 PM) Peavy has been fantastic this year and has truly been jobbed out of quite a few wins. Between the team scoring very few runs in quite a few of his good games and the bullpen blowing some big leads, he's been completely robbed of a good # of victories. He needed and needs to step up in big games. 1-3 vs. Tigers. Way too much hype over Peavy the competitor. Still I would like to know how many of his games the pen has blown. Shouldn't he be like 14-9 if it weren't for the pen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zirc Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 09:46 PM) It's just proof that one season isn't a valid sample size. It's just proof that pitcher wins are a complete non-statistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 4, 2012 -> 07:01 PM) He needed and needs to step up in big games. 1-3 vs. Tigers. Way too much hype over Peavy the competitor. Still I would like to know how many of his games the pen has blown. Shouldn't he be like 14-9 if it weren't for the pen? I don't think it's been the bullpen costing him wins, as much as it has been a lack of run support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 QUOTE (zirc @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 07:46 AM) It's just proof that pitcher wins are a complete non-statistic. I still think they have something to say like team confidence. Aces win 20 games and they even do it on bad teams. Wins can separate an ace from a good pitcher. Peavy is not an ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 09:42 AM) I still think they have something to say like team confidence. Aces win 20 games and they even do it on bad teams. Wins can separate an ace from a good pitcher. Peavy is not an ace. Are you saying that Felix Hernandez is not an ace? His records the last two seasons were 13-12 & 14-14. He has only won more than 14 games once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 5, 2012 -> 09:42 AM) I still think they have something to say like team confidence. Aces win 20 games and they even do it on bad teams. Wins can separate an ace from a good pitcher. Peavy is not an ace. Team confidence? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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