chisoxt Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 8, 2012 -> 03:11 AM) I really wish the White Sox would get a manger that use statistics instead of the seat of their pants to manage. The bottom fo the 8th was an embarassment. If Kw was pissed after Detroit he just watched his manager look like an absolute fool.. LOL! Kenny wanted to show everybody in the off season how smart he was by bypassing Sandy Alomar Jr. and hiring somebody with no coaching or managerial experience just so Don Cooper can have more power. Now we all are paying the price. Serves Williams right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Ramirez rips a homer to tie the game the previous AB. Notorious fastball hitter, Mr. Ramirez. Beckham, all season long, has been hitting about 0.050 against anything over 95 MPH. Herrera, 96-101 MPH fastball. Beckham, DEAD. Surprise? Shouldn't have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Sox bounce back and take the final two. This my friends was the straw that broke the camel's back. Bank on it! Go SOX! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Excited to see Peavy throw 120 pitches tomorrow regardless of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Lineup tomorrow ought to be based entirely on who has the fewest at-bats against Chen in a White Sox uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZZZA Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 lol^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 8, 2012 -> 04:16 AM) Ramirez rips a homer to tie the game the previous AB. Notorious fastball hitter, Mr. Ramirez. Beckham, all season long, has been hitting about 0.050 against anything over 95 MPH. Herrera, 96-101 MPH fastball. Beckham, DEAD. Surprise? Shouldn't have been. If you bunt with Ramirez, then you have Johnson come up for Beckham. They had a LHP warming up, so either you get them to bring in the LHP (and then you can use Flowers, who's great vs LHP) or they walk Johnson to bring up De Aza/let Johnson face the righty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Tough loss but we are still either tied for first or game up tomorrow. Not having Youk And Dunn in lineup makes it harder. Pitching and clutch hitting just wasn't there today. Hopefully We win tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (chisoxt @ Sep 8, 2012 -> 03:16 AM) LOL! Kenny wanted to show everybody in the off season how smart he was by bypassing Sandy Alomar Jr. and hiring somebody with no coaching or managerial experience just so Don Cooper can have more power. Now we all are paying the price. Serves Williams right. Great post as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I don't recall any KC player being brushed back or even shown a message not to dig in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 09:19 PM) If you bunt with Ramirez, then you have Johnson come up for Beckham. They had a LHP warming up, so either you get them to bring in the LHP (and then you can use Flowers, who's great vs LHP) or they walk Johnson to bring up De Aza/let Johnson face the righty. It was a miracle that Alexei even got the bunt down. But yeah, if you do commit to bunting, the situation was SCREAMING for ANYONE but Beckham there. Then Herrera did him a favor and hung a lifeless, dead-fish slider over the outer-half and Gordon still couldn't put it in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Sep 8, 2012 -> 03:20 AM) I don't recall any KC player being brushed back or even shown a message not to dig in I believe every homer Cain's hit against the Sox this year has been on sliders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (RZZZA @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 10:14 PM) Dude, we can't beat the Royals. We can't beat the Tigers. We've looked like a crappy team since the ASB I don't think these are over reactions. They're affirmations of reality. You gotta chill out...we haven't played well for about 10 days. That's okay. We haven't been healthy either, hardly seen anything from Dunn and Youk is hurting as well (I realize he just had a child). Let's see how this series ends and how we play the Tigs at home. It's easy to read into everything that happens into the final month, but this season is more than that. We've won some huge games and have shown some major cajones. Those things still count when we can't pull through. Don't forget to look at the whole picture. Dismissing all important wins as mere happenstance and seeing every failure as proof of our mediocrity doesn't make any sense. If you were a baseball player with that attitude, you'd be Gordon Beckham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 10:19 PM) Tough loss but we are still either tied for first or game up tomorrow. Not having Youk And Dunn in lineup makes it harder. Pitching and clutch hitting just wasn't there today. Hopefully We win tomorrow. Batting lopez second makes it harder. Letting him hit with thr bases loaded is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Now I have to go with the gf to the stupid f***ing club and deal with huge douchebags all f***ing night. Go Angels Angels of Anaheim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 10:18 PM) Lineup tomorrow ought to be based entirely on who has the fewest at-bats against Chen in a White Sox uniform. Basically the lineup at the end of the Twins' drubbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 8, 2012 -> 03:21 AM) You gotta chill out...we haven't played well for about 10 days. That's okay. We haven't been healthy either, hardly seen anything from Dunn and Youk is hurting as well (I realize he just had a child). Let's see how this series ends and how we play the Tigs at home. It's easy to read into everything that happens into the final month, but this season is more than that. We've won some huge games and have shown some major cajones. Those things still count when we can't pull through. Don't forget to look at the whole picture. Dismissing all important wins as mere happenstance and seeing every failure as proof of our mediocrity doesn't make any sense. If you were a baseball player with that attitude, you'd be Gordon Beckham. Well, if you look at the whole picture (stats on the year), you'd see that something killing the Sox is their bullpen management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 10:23 PM) Well, if you look at the whole picture (stats on the year), you'd see that something killing the Sox is their bullpen management. I am usually as optimistic as anyone here, but this team has lost its mojo...they know the Royals and Tigers own them, and they aren't focused. I hope they prove me dead wrong. Dead wrong. But I don't see them heading to the Postseason. And as Fathom said, the manager is not helping the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 10:06 PM) Reed's fastball is almost as straight as Thornton, Koch and Jenks (09-10). :lolhitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxt Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 8, 2012 -> 03:23 AM) Well, if you look at the whole picture (stats on the year), you'd see that something killing the Sox is their bullpen management. No the managment hasn't been all that great, but neither has the bullpen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 10:23 PM) Well, if you look at the whole picture (stats on the year), you'd see that something killing the Sox is their bullpen management. It really feels like 70-75% of the bullpen decisions Ventura has made since the start of the Orioles' road series have backfired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) 25 games left. This team looks like they have about 11 wins left in them. Just don't have enough pitching to rely on. And the hitting is homer or nothing. Edited September 8, 2012 by flavum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 10:24 PM) I am usually as optimistic as anyone here, but this team has lost its mojo...they know the Royals and Tigers own them, and they aren't focused. I hope they prove me dead wrong. Dead wrong. But I don't see them heading to the Postseason. And as Fathom said, the manager is not helping the cause. Or some miracle will have to occur with the Tigers just collapsing down the stretch and handing it to us, like the Twins in 2008. Liriano has gone from a very good acquisition to the enigma he usually is...and he's also exposing the bullpen to 4 innings of stressful pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 09:18 PM) Lineup tomorrow ought to be based entirely on who has the fewest at-bats against Chen in a White Sox uniform. That would be Birmingham and Charlotte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 09:28 PM) Or some miracle will have to occur with the Tigers just collapsing down the stretch and handing it to us, like the Twins in 2008. Liriano has gone from a very good acquisition to the enigma he usually is...and he's also exposing the bullpen to 4 innings of stressful pitching. They aren't exactly giving their fan base any sign of hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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