DukeNukeEm Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Just announced. Unbelievable. The nerve of them when real unemployment is over 10%, the city is broke, the state is broke... the damn country is broke and they turn down that offer from the city? f*** the teachers. I hope all of them who are walking out never step foot in our cities' classrooms again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 What the hell is happening right now? Are the schools closing down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Teachers b**** more than anyone, it just never ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 What the hell is happening right now? Are the schools closing down? Yes. CBU offered them a deal of 4% raises per year and no increase in health insurance premiums, the union turned it down, and now we've got a strike. I'd love to see Rahm pull a Reagan here and just break the union in half but I doubt it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Id like to see Scott Walker make a special guest appearance and layeth the smacketh down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 What a joke. You can't walk out on the kids. It's fine to demand more money or benefits or better work environments, but who loses most when the teachers go on strike? It's not the union, it's not the city, it's the kids. Try to get a deal done but do your f***ing job in the mean time. This has been one of the most violent summers in history. Here's a bright idea, let's cancel school and put more kids on the street instead of in classrooms. Guess what, everyone else in the f***ing country is working their ass off in s***ty work places and getting less money than they deserve too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Sep 9, 2012 -> 11:53 PM) What a joke. You can't walk out on the kids. It's fine to demand more money or benefits or better work environments, but who loses most when the teachers go on strike? It's not the union, it's not the city, it's the kids. Try to get a deal done but do your f***ing job in the mean time. This has been one of the most violent summers in history. Here's a bright idea, let's cancel school and put more kids on the street instead of in classrooms. Guess what, everyone else in the f***ing country is working their ass off in s***ty work places and getting less money than they deserve too. stop it right this instant! youre making way too much sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 04:53 AM) What a joke. You can't walk out on the kids. It's fine to demand more money or benefits or better work environments, but who loses most when the teachers go on strike? It's not the union, it's not the city, it's the kids. Try to get a deal done but do your f***ing job in the mean time. This has been one of the most violent summers in history. Here's a bright idea, let's cancel school and put more kids on the street instead of in classrooms. Guess what, everyone else in the f***ing country is working their ass off in s***ty work places and getting less money than they deserve too. Great post. I was reading the IHSHAA may rule against letting the kids practice. Coaches are going to take them to city parks to practice football cause the football coaches are concerned the kids in these bad neighborhoods will just quit the sport and go to the streets. Teachers are making a big mistake here. In this economy what's wrong with a 4 percent raise and no rise in health benefit costs? What do they want 10 percent? Good for them I guess if they can get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 Great post. I was reading the IHSHAA may rule against letting the kids practice. Coaches are going to take them to city parks to practice football cause the football coaches are concerned the kids in these bad neighborhoods will just quit the sport and go to the streets. Teachers are making a big mistake here. In this economy what's wrong with a 4 percent raise and no rise in health benefit costs? What do they want 10 percent? Good for them I guess if they can get it. They want 19%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I respect the unions belief that they should be reimbursed for having to work longer hours now, but 19% increase seems extreme. I don't really know much about this stuff so I am sure there is more to it than what we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juddling Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 from Fox News: The district offered a cost-of-living raise of 2 percent a year for four years, which the union said was unacceptable — especially after Mayor Rahm Emanuel last year canceled a previously negotiated 4 percent raise, citing budget problems. A school district spokeswoman has said that raise will not be made up and the district will not address it in negotiations. The union has lowered the amount it’s asking for, but has not said what its counterproposal is now. Only weeks ago, it sought a 19 percent raise in the first year of the contract. The union also is concerned about raises based on teacher experience and education. It has said the district agreed to retain language allowing raises based on experience, called step increases, but it would not actually pay the money now. Keeping the language in the contract, though, could be important for teachers in future negotiations. Teachers also are concerned about new teacher evaluations, health benefits and how a longer school day for students is being implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Maybe if the city didn't have thousands of ghost employees making six figures, they could afford to pay teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Karen Lewis seems like a major, major, major BEEEOTCH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Rahm is getting what he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Pay them whatever the want. Start em at 100k a year. Most important and most difficult job in the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 If you increase the work day, you have to expect to increase pay by a similar proportion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Even though I already knew the news, I read the thread title and thought of 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 08:16 AM) If you increase the work day, you have to expect to increase pay by a similar proportion and 19% is nowhere near a similar proportion. Maybe they forgot to include the math teachers in the discussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 09:22 AM) Even though I already knew the news, I read the thread title and thought of 24. I endorse this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 08:16 AM) If you increase the work day, you have to expect to increase pay by a similar proportion Even Rich Daley wasn't dumb enough to cancel a collectively bargained raise and then unilaterally try to impose a longer school day/year. And that dude bulldozed an airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 08:24 AM) and 19% is nowhere near a similar proportion. Maybe they forgot to include the math teachers in the discussions They added 90 minutes, how long is the school day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 08:30 AM) They added 90 minutes, how long is the school day? Really? I thought it was only 30 minutes longer. Never mind then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Sep 9, 2012 -> 11:53 PM) What a joke. You can't walk out on the kids. It's fine to demand more money or benefits or better work environments, but who loses most when the teachers go on strike? It's not the union, it's not the city, it's the kids. Try to get a deal done but do your f***ing job in the mean time. This has been one of the most violent summers in history. Here's a bright idea, let's cancel school and put more kids on the street instead of in classrooms. Guess what, everyone else in the f***ing country is working their ass off in s***ty work places and getting less money than they deserve too. Teachers are getting f***ed over hard here and this is their only leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 08:24 AM) and 19% is nowhere near a similar proportion. Maybe they forgot to include the math teachers in the discussions You're right; their days are about 25% longer now, and that 19% would include their cancelled cost-of-living adjustment as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 It's also about a lot more than just pay increases, as well: http://www.ctunet.com/quest-center/researc...tudents-deserve you can find a 1-page summary there or the full report. There's concerns about staffing, resource distribution, class sizes and other issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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