aboz56 Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 USA Today sports weekly reports that Ken Griffey Jr. wants out of Cincy. The report says the Reds offered him to the White Sox for Magglio. The Sox debated it for a week and said NO. Now it says Griffey wants to play for the Yankees and was in town last week. Thank god KW didn't do this, but why even debate this move? If I'm a baseball GM, the only OF I trade Mags for is Vlady. Case closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 I don't trade maggs for anybody case closed. Why'd we even need a week to think about it? Here would be my conversation with the reds GM... Red's GM: Hey I'll offer you Griffey for Ma-- Cali: No Not that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 I won't trade Maggs, but its interesting that we at least listened for a week about it. I'm thinking, maybe this shows that JR wouldn't mind spending a bit of money(Of course Maggs makes good money too). I'd just like to get Austin Kearns or Dunn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 gotta go with cali on this one.... that phone call would have been short sweet and simple.....grif for maggs.. hell no ......i wouldnt even have to debate it for a week.....nor would the idea be the least bit entertaining.........we have to start picking someone to build this team around......maggs is that someone in my eyes.....kw has got to be doing some serious drugs if he was even thinking about this deal for anymore length of time over a second........jr has got to get rid of him now before he f***s this team up anymore than what its heading now....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 I'd do Vlad for Maggs in a heartbeat. Vlad is the best hitter in the Majors right now, without body armor of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 I'd definately agree with you Mike. Of course I'd want both in the Southside, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Originally posted by Cerbaho-WGI'd do Vlad for Maggs in a heartbeat. Vlad is the best hitter in the Majors right now, without body armor of course. No way, Magz has 2 years left on his contract and already likes the Sox's enough to give them a discount. Vlad would leave after this season, I'd keep Magz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Are you sure Vlad's a free agent? I thought the Expos signed him to a longterm deal a year or two ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 I though this was his last year of his contract, he makes something like 12 mil this season, then he's a FA. Plus: There is speculation that the Diamondbacks may be interested in trading for Guerrero at the upcoming winter meetings, the Arizona Republic reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 yeah it is his last year. he'll make 9.5 mil guaranteed, plus incentives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Make it to the world series. Then with all the money JR will make, and the increased fan support we can sign Vladdy. LETS GO WHITESOX!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted December 11, 2002 Share Posted December 11, 2002 Vlad would want around 20 mil per year, and if JR gives anyone 20 mil per year, i'd have a heart attack. And we stiil dont have enough pitching to be world series contenders. All these years of losing have totally taken away any hope i had left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Vlad wouldn't want 20 mil/year, his agent isn't Scott Boras. I'd still do the trade, Vlad has the best bat in the majors, and the best arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 It dosen't matter what agent he has, when someone offers him 20 mil, he's gonna take it and someone will offer him that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Originally posted by ChisoxfnI won't trade Maggs, but its interesting that we at least listened for a week about it. Well, if by "interesting" you mean surprised that the White Sox would even entertain the offer, I'm not really sure it's that "interesting" considering KW has entertained similarly bad offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Originally posted by CubKilla Originally posted by ChisoxfnI won't trade Maggs, but its interesting that we at least listened for a week about it. Well, if by "interesting" you mean surprised that the White Sox would even entertain the offer, I'm not really sure it's that "interesting" considering KW has entertained similarly bad offers. I'd do Griffey for Maggs.........IF we got Elmer Dessens..... and Joe Borchard was ready to hit 280 - 30 - 125 Considering neither of these things are current reality..... Cali's comments were right on. Maggs = Prime of his Career, misses very few games...... JR. = Worst Slump of Career, misses numerous games.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 14, 2002 Share Posted December 14, 2002 I agree with chick. I'd have hung up immediately. No way I trade Maggs for anybody. I can't believe how people sometimes take for granted the stars we've got. Trading Maggs for anybody in baseball is insane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted December 14, 2002 Share Posted December 14, 2002 Originally posted by greg775 Trading Maggs for anybody in baseball is insane! I wouldn't go that far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 I wouldnt trade Maggs for anyone, Vlad included. And KW said he thought about it for about five seconds, not a week. Im actually starting to like KW, he doesnt seem as incompetent as he did in days gone by. I like that he wants a big time guy and a middle class schmuck. I think Kenny will do some great things this offseason. Im changing my mood to honor him now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 Originally posted by theoldromanI wouldnt trade Maggs for anyone, Vlad included. You're crazy. Vlad has a better arm, steals more bases, and is consistently among the ML's best in most offensive categories..... just like Maggs is. Vlad is the only guy I'd trade Maggs for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 Originally posted by theoldroman Im actually starting to like KW, he doesnt seem as incompetent as he did in days gone by. I like that he wants a big time guy and a middle class schmuck. I think Kenny will do some great things this offseason. Im changing my mood to honor him now... I understand where you're coming from here Roman..... but a few rumors that cannot be substantiated except for a thread started on CBS Sportsline does not make KW any more competent until the trade actually happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 Well, cubkilla, the difference between Maggs and Vlad is so miniscule theres actually no point in this swap. But whatever, it hasnt been offered so theres no reason to think about it. But Maggs for Griffey no way. And yes, a few rumors mean nothing but you know I was one of the biggest supporters of the Koch trade and I like the fact that he says hes going after the best. Maybe he wont do anything and if he does Ill just think of him as any other GM. But I find that unlikely. Hes sure to do something this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 Originally posted by theoldromanWell, cubkilla, the difference between Maggs and Vlad is so miniscule theres actually no point in this swap. But whatever, it hasnt been offered so theres no reason to think about it. But Maggs for Griffey no way. And yes, a few rumors mean nothing but you know I was one of the biggest supporters of the Koch trade and I like the fact that he says hes going after the best. Maybe he wont do anything and if he does Ill just think of him as any other GM. But I find that unlikely. Hes sure to do something this offseason. I wish I shared your optimism Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjav829 Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 Originally posted by CubKilla Originally posted by theoldromanI wouldnt trade Maggs for anyone, Vlad included. You're crazy. Vlad has a better arm, steals more bases, and is consistently among the ML's best in most offensive categories..... just like Maggs is. Vlad is the only guy I'd trade Maggs for. I would trade him for this guy named Alex Rodriguez. I heard hes pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 Heck ya, I'd trade Maggs for either of those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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