caulfield12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 5 Lirianos >>> 1 2013 Jake Peavy 1 Liriano/1 Floyd/Youk or AJ > 2013 Jake Peavy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 15, 2012 -> 01:28 PM) Liriano has a 5.04 ERA with the Sox. 90% of his problems are mental, along with finding a consistent release point. Unfortunately, they can't give Floyd and Liriano BOTH $5 million and hope one of them excels. I'd still go with Liriano...Gavin's just never done it consistently, and he's had 2009, 10, 11 and 12 to prove himself. Does that include his 5 scoreless innings today? Too small of a sample size. I'd lean toward floyd. Injury is less of a concern, and signing him for a year, I predict, will be much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 15, 2012 -> 01:28 PM) Liriano has a 5.04 ERA with the Sox. 90% of his problems are mental, along with finding a consistent release point. Unfortunately, they can't give Floyd and Liriano BOTH $5 million and hope one of them excels. I'd still go with Liriano...Gavin's just never done it consistently, and he's had 2009, 10, 11 and 12 to prove himself. 2008 - 3.84 ERA, 206 IP 2009 - 4.06 ERA, 193 IP 2010 - 4.08 ERA, 187 IP 2011 - 4.37 ERA, 193 IP That's really a very good run, and Liriano has showed no ability to do something like that. If you had to pick one at the same price (we know Gavin's price), it's easily Gavin. If they were both cheap, MAYBE you take a chance on Liriano instead. Also consider our "need" for a righty. However, I don't mind bringing back both. We'll probably take a look at trying to bring Peavy back at Gavin's price, but who knows if that will work or if we'll want to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) 76 pitches, 2 walks, NO HITS 10 outs to go. Edited September 15, 2012 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Let's wait for a hit before we pull the plug on Liriano, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Well, that's one way to get 2 quick outs. A quick walk and a quick DP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZZZA Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Let's keep in mind that this is a minor league caliber Twins team we're facing today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 15, 2012 -> 01:39 PM) Let's wait for a hit before we pull the plug on Liriano, lol That's playing with fire. Let him leave the game with confidence and have Septimo start the 7th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 15, 2012 -> 01:38 PM) 2008 - 3.84 ERA, 206 IP 2009 - 4.06 ERA, 193 IP 2010 - 4.08 ERA, 187 IP 2011 - 4.37 ERA, 193 IP That's really a very good run, and Liriano has showed no ability to do something like that. If you had to pick one at the same price (we know Gavin's price), it's easily Gavin. If they were both cheap, MAYBE you take a chance on Liriano instead. Also consider our "need" for a righty. However, I don't mind bringing back both. We'll probably take a look at trying to bring Peavy back at Gavin's price, but who knows if that will work or if we'll want to do it. Peavy will be in the $11.5-14 million range, maybe more. And Floyd's 2 DL stints mitigate some of his appeal. Durability was his calling card, eating innings, before this season. 84 pitches. 9 outs left. Edited September 15, 2012 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 HE GAWN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 QUOTE (RZZZA @ Sep 15, 2012 -> 02:39 PM) Let's keep in mind that this is a minor league caliber Twins team we're facing today. Only a handful of guys in MLB history have >1 no hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Sep 15, 2012 -> 01:41 PM) That's playing with fire. Let him leave the game with confidence and have Septimo start the 7th lol are you joking? He's been absolutely dominant today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 15, 2012 -> 01:39 PM) Let's wait for a hit before we pull the plug on Liriano, lol What manager would do otherwise unless he has well over 130 pitches? Edited September 15, 2012 by MAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 QUOTE (RZZZA @ Sep 15, 2012 -> 01:39 PM) Let's keep in mind that this is a minor league caliber Twins team we're facing today. Willingham, Morneau, Plouffe and Revere are all good hitters. But yeah, without Mauer and Span, a different look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 2/3 of a no hitter from King Lear-iano. Don't stop now boyzs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 If he can get this thing into the 9th we'll have to bring D-Weezy into CF...THEN we'll know he's got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I like the September Gordon, I must say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 MODS: Request to delete this post. My quote was made up by the poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 15, 2012 -> 01:41 PM) lol are you joking? He's been absolutely dominant today. And let's have him leave the game with a feeling of dominance before he implodes. Let Septimo, Omogrossa, and Thorton finish the no hitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZZZA Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 he was safe! bah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Sep 15, 2012 -> 02:45 PM) And let's have him leave the game with a feeling of dominance before he implodes. Let Septimo, Omogrossa, and Thorton finish the no hitter I agree. The best thing for him would be that feeling of dominance that comes from pitching his 2nd no hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 9 in a row for Duensing. Bench DeAza. Golden Sombrero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 15, 2012 -> 01:46 PM) I agree. The best thing for him would be that feeling of dominance that comes from pitching his 2nd no hitter. Yeah, no s***. Leaving the game with 1 hit surrendered won't feel any different than leaving after 6 with no hits. The potential change of approach that comes along with a no-no, though, is well worth the risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 15, 2012 -> 01:47 PM) 9 in a row for Duensing. Bench DeAza. Golden Sombrero. ADA has been slowing down for a bit. Hope he can heat up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 15, 2012 -> 01:44 PM) MODS: Request to delete this post. My quote was made up by the poster. Request denied. EXILE or DEATH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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