Iwritecode Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 03:51 PM) Boo-f***ing-hoo, welcome to life on earth! Will you be just as cool with your proposed "Deal with it" solution if your child is sent to a separate room by themselves for lunch every day for years? Or is this all some misplaced nostalgia for lunchroom snacks?? I wonder if any of these kids get picked on by the other kids because they were the ones that caused them to not be able to bring a PB&J sandwich to lunch anymore. It's a hypothetical situation but I can totally see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 03:57 PM) I wonder if any of these kids get picked on by the other kids because they were the ones that caused them to not be able to bring a PB&J sandwich to lunch anymore. It's a hypothetical situation but I can totally see it happening. That did cross my mind, which is why I wouldn't necessarily oppose the segregation solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 03:56 PM) Sure, the child is literally different from the norm. That sort of stuff can stick, though, and make you a target for years. Children can be absolutely terrible to each other for the dumbest reasons. I just don't see how trying to fix it and saying no you're really equal to everyone else really does any good. It's kinda like those participation trophies kids get to make it "fair" for everyone. I got a few when I played sports. They didn't make me feel any better. I knew they weren't nearly as good as the first and second place trophies the other kids got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Disclosure: I may have a small bias as I find nothing on the planet more disgusting than a kid with food smeared on their face (not a baby but a school-aged child) and the worst is with peanut butter. Gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 03:50 PM) This is nearly as terrible as your "schools=children" analogy, but not quite. You're still not getting that analogy. And I can totally see the ACLU at some point making that exact argument. They're going to teach that in schools in the next 10 years, guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 03:51 PM) Boo-f***ing-hoo, welcome to life on earth! Will you be just as cool with your proposed "Deal with it" solution if your child is sent to a separate room by themselves for lunch every day for years? Or is this all some misplaced nostalgia for lunchroom snacks?? I would actually. Because i'm going to teach my son that he's not the center of the world and just because he wants something doesn't mean he (1) is owed anything and (2) can just complain and get what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 04:05 PM) You're still not getting that analogy. Yeah, I am, it just makes no sense at all. Because schools aren't children, these bans aren't put in place as "punishment" for anyone, and they are put in place to protect against actual medical situations versus because other schools have them. It doesn't even come close to being coherent. And I can totally see the ACLU at some point making that exact argument. They're going to teach that in schools in the next 10 years, guaranteed. They'll stop teaching anatomy based on your misunderstanding of sociological discussions of gender and sex? I am skeptical. Edited September 21, 2012 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 05:07 PM) I would actually. Because i'm going to teach my son that he's not the center of the world and just because he wants something doesn't mean he (1) is owed anything and (2) can just complain and get what he wants. As long as no one tries to take his peanut butter snacks away from him. Then he clearly can complain and get what he wants. Because he's entitled to be able to eat those in school by god-given rights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 ^^ beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 04:10 PM) As long as no one tries to take his peanut butter snacks away from him. Then he clearly can complain and get what he wants. Because he's entitled to be able to eat those in school by god-given rights! I'm 98% sure that's a constitutionally protected right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 04:03 PM) Disclosure: I may have a small bias as I find nothing on the planet more disgusting than a kid with food smeared on their face (not a baby but a school-aged child) and the worst is with peanut butter. Gross. Especially when you are wearing clean pants and they want to give you a hug... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Your kid can't eat peanut butter, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 04:09 PM) Yeah, I am, it just makes no sense at all. Because schools aren't children, these bans aren't put in place as "punishment" for anyone, and they are put in place to protect against actual medical situations versus because other schools have them. It doesn't even come close to being coherent. They'll stop teaching anatomy based on your misunderstanding of sociological discussions of gender and sex? I am skeptical. It does in the context I was making the analogy - you're making unreasonable decision that effects the vast majority for the sake of a small minority, whether or not the actual threat of harm is considerable or not. You're creating a blanket ban as opposed to an individualized response to deal with the problem. It's the same idea. AN OVERREACTION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 04:14 PM) It does in the context I was making the analogy - you're making unreasonable decision that effects the vast majority for the sake of a small minority, whether or not the actual threat of harm is considerable or not. You're creating a blanket ban as opposed to an individualized response to deal with the problem. It's the same idea. AN OVERREACTION. you must deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 IMHO, I think separating the kid(s) out from everyone else would be the simpler and less problematic way to go. Especially with the bullying/teasing part. In my mind I just see it as: "I can't eat a PB&J for lunch because of you. You suck." compared to: "So you have to eat by yourself because you can't eat peanut butter huh? That sucks. Wanna play kickball?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 maybe i went to a snobby school or something, but PB&J was like a scrub lunch. everyone got the school hot lunch. there was like tacos and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 05:37 PM) maybe i went to a snobby school or something, but PB&J was like a scrub lunch. everyone got the school hot lunch. there was like tacos and stuff. Can you imagine how pissed the kids would be if they had to eat celery without peanut butter? They might murder the kid responsible. Using peanut butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 02:37 PM) maybe i went to a snobby school or something, but PB&J was like a scrub lunch. everyone got the school hot lunch. there was like tacos and stuff. We were typically fed a diet of foie gras and sauternes through 8th grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 04:14 PM) It does in the context I was making the analogy - you're making unreasonable decision that effects the vast majority for the sake of a small minority, whether or not the actual threat of harm is considerable or not. You're creating a blanket ban as opposed to an individualized response to deal with the problem. It's the same idea. AN OVERREACTION. It's not the same because there's an actual threat of harm in specific schools with individual responses on a school-by-school basis as-needed. A blanket ban with no consideration of actual harm is not the same thing as individual policies based directly on consideration of actual harm. A DUMB ANALOGY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I passed a house on my way home with a "Slow down please, deaf child playing!" sign out front. WTF, jerks. Why should I and every other driver be inconvenienced by your selfish child? Just keep 'em inside instead of burdening everyone else. Might as well make the speed limit on every road 20 MPH, SAME EXACT THING, OVERREACTION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 04:40 PM) We were typically fed a diet of foie gras and sauternes through 8th grade. that would be banned now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 04:39 PM) Can you imagine how pissed the kids would be if they had to eat celery without peanut butter? They might murder the kid responsible. Using peanut butter. it would probably be an effective weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 21, 2012 Author Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 10:37 PM) maybe i went to a snobby school or something, but PB&J was like a scrub lunch. everyone got the school hot lunch. there was like tacos and stuff. When I went to Queen of Martyrs we all got to run home for lunch cause most people lived within a few blocks of school. Yummy. Mom's fresh lunches. I'm sure nowadays they wouldn't allow that lest the kid(s) get kidnapped or the fear of getting kidnapped or falling down and scraping a knee. To my mom's credit, she never forced peanut butter on the kids. I hate and hated peanut butter. I remember at Brother Rice, however, a lot of the poor saps who brought a lunch had to eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Edited September 21, 2012 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Some of the schools in Burbank were doing that into the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 04:58 PM) I remember at Brother Rice, however, a lot of the poor saps who brought a lunch had to eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. hahaha. those losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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