StrangeSox Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 There was some crazy lady a couple of years ago that intentionally smeared peanut butter on her kid's backpack after the school instituted a peanut butter ban because one of the students was severely allergic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 08:22 AM) Talk about overreaction...sheesh. It's not like they're taking away sunshine and oxygen from these kids. It's peanut butter. Last I checked peanut butter isn't some essential nutrient that is required by everyone in order to exist. If you can save some lives by avoiding it at school then so be it. Stop clinging to your guns, religion, and peanut butter! Listen you vegan crazy, how about I spread meat butter on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 08:21 AM) Actually yes, you are insisting that the entire world needs to adapt to your kid, including the ones allergic to peanut butter. Not quite how it works, but good try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 08:46 AM) Listen you vegan crazy, how about I spread meat butter on you. So many levels of wrong, so little time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 09:47 AM) Not quite how it works, but good try. It's always different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 08:41 AM) There was some crazy lady a couple of years ago that intentionally smeared peanut butter on her kid's backpack after the school instituted a peanut butter ban because one of the students was severely allergic. http://am.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/11/father-...rgy-speaks-out/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 08:47 AM) So many levels of wrong, so little time. Oh, I realized that when I typed it...but it stands...if we can crush peanuts to create peanut butter, we can blend/crush a steak and create steak butter, too. http://meatbutter.com/ ^^ NOT a porn site...quite surprisingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 08:48 AM) http://am.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/11/father-...rgy-speaks-out/ Simple. Charge her with attempted murder. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 06:01 AM) Still doesn't mean I think the entire world needs to adapt to my kid. It's logic like this that confuses and annoys me. This is more entitlement minded bulls***..."my kid is sooo important that I'm entitled to everyone else having to change what they can eat/do while around them". How about no...I want no part of that. Would that be the best of situations for any parent, including myself? Hell no, of course not. But on the flip side, I don't want my kid living in a bubble wrapped world...but that's exactly what you just asked for. If my kid has some sort of deficiency to THAT insane of a degree, I'd home school them, because who's to say some kid won't bring some peanut butter to school and do it anyway just to see what happens?! Oh, that's right...nothing. In other words, there is danger out there...and if you don't want them to ever be in any potential danger, wrap them in a bubble and keep them indoors and lifeless throughout your days...but this is no alternative IMO. This. Especially the home-schooling part. If a kid is that severely allergic to something, why take the risk at all? Usually if they are that sensitive to it, it's not just peanut butter. It's anything that has peanuts in it. Granola bars, trail mix, snickers bars, cereal... Should they ban all that stuff from lunches too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 04:59 PM) But the issue isn't kids with peanut allergies grabbing a peanut butter sandwich because he feels left out. It's that peanut residue can be on the table they eat at, and get digested by the kids. That can happen literally anywhere in public that kids are. Playgrounds, restrooms, restaurants, friends houses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 09:39 AM) This. Especially the home-schooling part. If a kid is that severely allergic to something, why take the risk at all? Usually if they are that sensitive to it, it's not just peanut butter. It's anything that has peanuts in it. Granola bars, trail mix, snickers bars, cereal... Should they ban all that stuff from lunches too? Give them time...they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 07:39 AM) This. Especially the home-schooling part. Not everyone has the ability to home school. Some of us need to work to pay the bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 09:39 AM) This. Especially the home-schooling part. If a kid is that severely allergic to something, why take the risk at all? Usually if they are that sensitive to it, it's not just peanut butter. It's anything that has peanuts in it. Granola bars, trail mix, snickers bars, cereal... Should they ban all that stuff from lunches too? Because it'd be better for the kid to lead a normal childhood instead of being ostracized if the only cost is not having peanut butter at school. It also teaches children a lesson about doing things to help others. I don't think those other "may contain peanuts" or "processed on equipment that also processes peanuts" products present nearly as much of a risk of contact and ingestion as straight-up peanuts and especially greasy, oily, sticky peanut butter do, but I may be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 09:42 AM) Not everyone has the ability to home school. Some of us need to work to pay the bills. Well, if you happen to have a kid with a severe allergy to that degree, maybe you'll need to find a way...just as we always have. What's funny is that scientists believe that we caused these allergies by sanitizing the world too much, and this is a inadvertent reaction of a 'bored or underdeveloped immune system'. At this rate, in 30 years, we'll have to just ban peanuts, nuts, honey and every other food that causes such reaction...period. I'm not trying to be insensitive...but there has to be a line drawn somewhere...and I find this to be the first step to the world depicted in 1984. And to that, I say...no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 09:43 AM) Because it'd be better for the kid to lead a normal childhood instead of being ostracized if the only cost is not having peanut butter at school. It also teaches children a lesson about doing things to help others. I don't think those other "may contain peanuts" or "processed on equipment that also processes peanuts" products present nearly as much of a risk of contact and ingestion as straight-up peanuts and especially greasy, oily, sticky peanut butter do, but I may be wrong. Again...where does it end? These same reaction occur from other things aside from peanut butter, but anything with 'tree nuts' involved...honey, etc... In 30 years we'll have banned so many things that all we can eat is a protein tablet with some water. No thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 You also get into the problem of finding something else for the kids to eat. I remember in grade school I pretty much lived on PB&J sandwiches every single day because I wouldn't eat anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 07:46 AM) Well, if you happen to have a kid with a severe allergy to that degree, maybe you'll need to find a way...just as we always have. This is just idiotic to the nth degree. My kid can die from touching peanuts? Hmm. I'll quit my job, stop paying rent, and go to the soup kitchen for my meals just so I can home school. I can't think of a simpler solution so I'll just have to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 09:50 AM) This is just idiotic to the nth degree. My kid can die from touching peanuts? Hmm. I'll quit my job, stop paying rent, and go to the soup kitchen for my meals just so I can home school. I can't think of a simpler solution so I'll just have to do this. Not quite what I said, but ok. The question I posed was where do we draw the line? A question you've repeatedly failed to answer, other than to dismiss it by saying something asinine like "that's idiotic to the nth degree". The only thing idiotic about it was your reply. What if your kid is allergic to all nuts, and honey? Ban everything...just in case...because 0.5% of the population may die from it? Sorry, but I'm going to have to say no...I don't want to be intensive to your made of glass kid, but too bad. Yes, I'd feel the same way if my own kid was that fragile, too...it'd be unfortunate, but wtf...you impose on everyone else because YOUR specific kid cracks like china? I find THAT to be more insensitive to the majority. Edited September 21, 2012 by Y2HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 09:50 AM) This is just idiotic to the nth degree. My kid can die from touching peanuts? Hmm. I'll quit my job, stop paying rent, and go to the soup kitchen for my meals just so I can home school. I can't think of a simpler solution so I'll just have to do this. I've seen a story on a kid that was allergic to sunlight. I'm pretty sure his parents had to find a way to change their lives to deal with it. They couldn't just send him out and hope that he would be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 10:00 AM) I've seen a story on a kid that was allergic to sunlight. I'm pretty sure his parents had to find a way to change their lives to deal with it. They couldn't just send him out and hope that he would be ok. Meh...all he would have done was sparkle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 08:00 AM) I've seen a story on a kid that was allergic to sunlight. I'm pretty sure his parents had to find a way to change their lives to deal with it. They couldn't just send him out and hope that he would be ok. I'd venture to guess that peanut allergies are much more common than whatever was wrong with that kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 09:47 AM) Again...where does it end? These same reaction occur from other things aside from peanut butter, but anything with 'tree nuts' involved...honey, etc... In 30 years we'll have banned so many things that all we can eat is a protein tablet with some water. No thank you. It ends somewhere around, "hey, can you abide this minor dietary change for your lunches? Thanks!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 09:47 AM) Again...where does it end? These same reaction occur from other things aside from peanut butter, but anything with 'tree nuts' involved...honey, etc... In 30 years we'll have banned so many things that all we can eat is a protein tablet with some water. No thank you. It ends somewhere around, "hey, can you abide this minor dietary change for your lunches? Thanks!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 10:05 AM) I'd venture to guess that peanut allergies are much more common than whatever was wrong with that kid. They are...but if you're making an acception/accommodation for a peanut allergy, which while a more common allergy still afflicts a vast minority people, I -- as a concerned parent -- want to know why you won't make an acception for my kid who is deathly allergic to dairy? You've set precedent on banning foods being an acceptable practice for just in case reasons -- so now you've opened the door for litigation when it comes to any/other foods, too. Like I said...where do we draw the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 10:00 AM) I've seen a story on a kid that was allergic to sunlight. I'm pretty sure his parents had to find a way to change their lives to deal with it. They couldn't just send him out and hope that he would be ok. Right, they couldn't have the school make minor accommodations for him. You can for peanut allergies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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