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Honestly is this the WORST close division race in MLB history? Both teams are TERRIBLE (no matter how much a lot of people on here want to talk up Detroit --- they suck) and stumbled their way to a tie with 8 games to go.

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QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 04:05 AM)
lol are you serious? But you renewed them last year? This team was suppose to lose 95 games.

 

I was going to post something similar to what you just said. 2012 has been way better from a PR standpoint than 2011 was. Who knows, maybe they'll make some exciting acquisitions this offseason that generate interest in the team.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 26, 2012 -> 11:06 PM)
I was going to post something similar to what you just said. 2012 has been way better from a PR standpoint than 2011 was. Who knows, maybe they'll make some exciting acquisitions this offseason that generate interest in the team.

 

Hopefully the Hahn promotion is true. Let's see what he can work here.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 26, 2012 -> 09:06 PM)
I was going to post something similar to what you just said. 2012 has been way better from a PR standpoint than 2011 was. Who knows, maybe they'll make some exciting acquisitions this offseason that generate interest in the team.

 

As negative as I was pre-2012, I see no way the 2013 team will compete. Too many pieces of this team will be gone, health concerns for Danks, Jones, Reed, Sale and Quintana (thought I think Hahn/KW will trade him in the winter) and its an odd numbered year so Rios should go in the tank.

 

I'm not gonna say 100 losses but easily a .500 team.

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QUOTE (Cali @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 04:10 AM)
As negative as I was pre-2012, I see no way the 2013 team will compete. Too many pieces of this team will be gone, health concerns for Danks, Jones, Reed, Sale and Quintana (thought I think Hahn/KW will trade him in the winter) and its an odd numbered year so Rios should go in the tank.

 

I'm not gonna say 100 losses but easily a .500 team.

 

A lot depends on whether or not Konerko can rebound from his weak 2nd half. If he can, then the offense has potential to be decent. I also have faith in Rios due to Manto's ability to get him to have a regular stance. I'm definitely not pessimistic about next year's team, as I think there will be a lot more stability in the starting rotation.

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QUOTE (Cali @ Sep 26, 2012 -> 11:10 PM)
As negative as I was pre-2012, I see no way the 2013 team will compete. Too many pieces of this team will be gone, health concerns for Danks, Jones, Reed, Sale and Quintana (thought I think Hahn/KW will trade him in the winter) and its an odd numbered year so Rios should go in the tank.

 

I'm not gonna say 100 losses but easily a .500 team.

 

Wait, health concerns for Jones, Reed, Sale and Quintana? Care to elaborate? I would expect progress for all mentioned.

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QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 12:13 AM)
Wait, health concerns for Jones, Reed, Sale and Quintana? Care to elaborate? I would expect progress for all mentioned.

 

I'm not sure what the health concerns for Jones and Reed are, but Sale and Quintana, sure.

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QUOTE (Cali @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 04:24 AM)
All I mean are heavy work loads on rookies pitchers in general. More for Sale and Quintana certainly, but Jones and Reed (assuming either or both aren't sent packing) might be a little gassed next year.

 

I would trade 2 of 3 out of Q, Viciedo and Reed for MLB ready, cost-controlled talent

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QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 26, 2012 -> 09:26 PM)
I would trade 2 of 3 out of Q, Viciedo and Reed for MLB ready, cost-controlled talent

 

Q I'd trade, but I'm hanging on to Viciedo and Reed. As frustrating as Tank has been vs. Righties and not taking pitches I'm still damn impressed by his first full season at 23.

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