Marty34 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 A middle-of-the-pack team is appropriate send off for KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I was wondering how long it would take you to start picking at the carcass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI1020 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Miami Marlins 13th out of 16 in the NL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 A rising star, I'd say Must be why he got promoted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Yup, 8th best record and 9 games over .500, with a team that you and most of the pundit world projected would finish last or near-last in the division. And they were able to stick it out until the end because of some pretty awesome moves by KW. I agree, good send-off season, though obviously it would go from good to great if they actually make the playoffs. Also LOL at you posting this, as if you didn't already say it in multiple other threads. And as if it means anything. And as if every poster here isn't already keenly aware of your irrational reactions to all things KW does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I give Kenny a ton of credit for not selling the farm before the deadline. He showed good discipline, especially if he knew he was not going to be the GM for much longer. No matter what happens the next week, at least no one can say "crap, the Sox didn't make the postseason even though they gave up all those awesome prospects/players". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 03:08 PM) I give Kenny a ton of credit for not selling the farm before the deadline. He showed good discipline, especially if he knew he was not going to be the GM for much longer. No matter what happens the next week, at least no one can say "crap, the Sox didn't make the postseason even though they gave up all those awesome prospects/players". I thought they didn't have any awesome prospects/players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 09:09 PM) I thought they didn't have any awesome prospects/players? Viciedo, Jones, Reed, Quintana, Thompson and Sanchez would have been players that many on here would have been upset about if they were traded and the players received in return didn't lead the Sox to the postseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 03:09 PM) I thought they didn't have any awesome prospects/players? They don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) so Marty, why is this a new topic? Just curious. They'd be the 7th best team in the AL if they were winning the division, but I don't think you would have put this thread up here. Edited September 27, 2012 by Greg Hibbard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 03:06 PM) Yup, 8th best record and 9 games over .500, with a team that you and most of the pundit world projected would finish last or near-last in the division. And they were able to stick it out until the end because of some pretty awesome moves by KW. I agree, good send-off season, though obviously it would go from good to great if they actually make the playoffs. Also LOL at you posting this, as if you didn't already say it in multiple other threads. And as if it means anything. And as if every poster here isn't already keenly aware of your irrational reactions to all things KW does. Why are you attacking me? Given all the talk about attendance, I think people should remember this is the 8th best team in AL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 03:27 PM) Why are you attacking me? Given all the talk about attendance, I think people should remember this is the 8th best team in AL. Record-wise, did this team do better or worse than you predicted at the beginning of the season? Think carefully before you answer, because it will be easy enough to dig up all your old posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 03:27 PM) Why are you attacking me? Given all the talk about attendance, I think people should remember this is the 8th best team in AL. Because you're a troll who only posts when the team is doing like you wish, losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 04:03 PM) Because you're a troll who only posts when the team is doing like you wish, losing. Please. I have spent an obscene amount of money supporting the White Sox over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 03:57 PM) Record-wise, did this team do better or worse than you predicted at the beginning of the season? Think carefully before you answer, because it will be easy enough to dig up all your old posts. 86 wins, division contention. SP collapse last few weeks wasn't built in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 04:16 PM) 86 wins, division contention. SP collapse last few weeks wasn't built in. So they did exactly what you thought they would. What did KW do wrong during the 2012 season again, exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 04:20 PM) So they did exactly what you thought they would. What did KW do wrong during the 2012 season again, exactly? Since Mid-August it's been a struggle to get 5 innings from 3/5 of the rotation. Liriano has been a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Sometimes I wish I was blessed with the power of the almighty banstick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 04:28 PM) Since Mid-August it's been a struggle to get 5 innings from 3/5 of the rotation. Liriano has been a bust. So which guy on our staff would have been necessarily better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 04:30 PM) So which guy on our staff would have been necessarily better? I don't understand your question. Lirano has hurt the team more than helped it. The gambles on Lirano, Viciedo, and Reed all went against the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 04:36 PM) I don't understand your question. Lirano has hurt the team more than helped it. The gambles on Lirano, Viciedo, and Reed all went against the Sox. My question is - which pitcher on our staff would you have had starting the Liriano games that you claim he hurt us in. If Liriano hurt us more than he helped us it implies that there was someone on our staff you feel that could have started those games and had better results. Which pitcher is it? Edited September 27, 2012 by Greg Hibbard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) Also, Marty, you are wrong if you think Viciedo is a bust. 22 homers is not a bust. What available outfielder would have been better? You must have someone in mind. Reed has been inconsistent, but how many games has he lost vs. saved? Is it proportionally more than any other closer? I think not. edit: Reed has pitched exactly one game that he has lost for this team since July 19th. So what the hell are you talking about? Edited September 27, 2012 by Greg Hibbard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Marty you're honestly just boring at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 05:03 PM) Marty you're honestly just boring at this point. Thanks for the diagnosis, Chief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 04:44 PM) My question is - which pitcher on our staff would you have had starting the Liriano games that you claim he hurt us in. If Liriano hurt us more than he helped us it implies that there was someone on our staff you feel that could have started those games and had better results. Which pitcher is it? You need a SP desperately and KW rolls the dice on Liriano. Turned out to be a terrible move. As far as free talent goes, Eric Stultz has given the Padres 93 innings, with the shape the Sox staff is in, no doubt he could have helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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