Marty34 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Take this FWIW, sometimes my guy on 35th street is right, sometimes he isn't. - Don't expect KW to stay long as President, there just isn't enough for him to do. Basically it's a "job well done" spot for him until a desirable GM job opens (Dodgers?) my guy is a pro KW guy by the way. - When I asked if Ventura likes being a manager he said that he likes the teaching aspect of the job. - Hahn thinks "very highly" of Guillen. When Hahn thinks they have a team ready to win Guillen would be at the top of his list for managers. They think Guillen is burnt out and would benfit from a year away from the game. My guy laid out a scenario where in a year or two Ventura replaces Buddy Bell as director of minor leagues and Guillen returns as manager. Guillen (obviously) won't return while KW is still with the organization. While my guy did not say Hahn is anti-Ventura, he did say he was tight with Guillen.. All this kinda surprised me because wasn't there a dust up between Hahn and Guillen on twitter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Thanks for sharing marty. I know one person on here who will love this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Zero percent chance Guillen returns as manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 NP Fathom. I can really see Ventura being a Point A to B manager and moving on to Budd0y Bell's role afterward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Oh good lord please no. I enjoyed Guillen's time here for the most part except his inane rants and his friggin' kids. Time to move on. As for Robin...just seems to me he really doesn't enjoy the whole "job" of being manager too much. Who knows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Can't wait to hear about this for 2+ years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI1020 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Is this somebody's wishful fantasy? I have no in on 35th but after all that has transpired anyone who would let Ozzie near a t ball team is nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 07:46 PM) Thanks for sharing marty. I know one person on here who will love this. I know 4999 people whose stomach just turned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 30, 2012 -> 01:51 AM) I know 4999 people whose stomach just turned Post of the year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 I think Guillen, under very specific circumstances, could be a good manager again. Those circumstances are the ones that my guy said, he's burned out, needs to get away from MLB for a year or two, second he needs a team that's ready to win. When he doesn't have that he loses interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 There's plenty of guys on 35th, with the logic of this person, it's most likely one of the crack dealers around there. Looks like, smells like, tastes like, it's gotta be bulls***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 And why would anyone believe that a twice-failed Ozzie Guillen would be a good move for this organization? Does Hahn want to wreck his GM career right off the bat? It's insane. The White Sox are even dumber than I thought if they're even considering it. The theory is that Ozzie will return to being a great manager with KW no longer around is preposterous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 09:06 PM) I think Guillen, under very specific circumstances, could be a good manager again. Those circumstances are the ones that my guy said, he's burned out, needs to get away from MLB for a year or two, second he needs a team that's ready to win. When he doesn't have that he loses interest. That's why he has his trip to Spain in the offseason, usually scheduled the first day after the end of the regular season since he doesn't actually expect his teams to qualify...but does hope for them to fight for 2nd place playoff 1% pool shares so the likes of Jeff Cox and Greg Walker won't go broke. I'd rather have Jerry Manuel or Jeff Torborg at the front of another youth movement than this nonsense. Edited September 30, 2012 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 09:06 PM) And why would anyone believe that a twice-failed Ozzie Guillen would be a good move for this organization? Does Hahn want to wreck his GM career right off the bat? It's insane. The White Sox are even dumber than I thought if they're even considering it. The theory is that Ozzie will return to being a great manager with KW no longer around is preposterous. but..but..it's Marty's guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) Seriously, I would rather have Marty34 as the manager. Or Konerko as player/manager. Or greg775. Edited September 30, 2012 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 yeah....not goin to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 09:08 PM) but..but..it's Marty's guy He's right sometimes, he's wrong sometimes. He's in a position to know the relationship between Hahn and Guillen when Guillen was here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Seriously, if this were a poll question...and there's no point to even doing one, would you rather have Ozzie Guillen as manager with KW completely out of the organization and Hahn left to run the show on his own or with KW still somewhat involved and ANYONE but Ozzie Guillen as manager, the pro-KW crowd despite the 3-9 or 3-10 (after Price tmrw) end of the season tailspin would run 90-95% against Ozzie. And I really wouldn't be upset in the least if Ventura stepped down at the end of season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 30, 2012 -> 12:21 AM) Take this FWIW, sometimes my guy on 35th street is right, sometimes he isn't. - Don't expect KW to stay long as President, there just isn't enough for him to do. Basically it's a "job well done" spot for him until a desirable GM job opens (Dodgers?) my guy is a pro KW guy by the way. - When I asked if Ventura likes being a manager he said that he likes the teaching aspect of the job. - Hahn thinks "very highly" of Guillen. When Hahn thinks they have a team ready to win Guillen would be at the top of his list for managers. They think Guillen is burnt out and would benfit from a year away from the game. My guy laid out a scenario where in a year or two Ventura replaces Buddy Bell as director of minor leagues and Guillen returns as manager. Guillen (obviously) won't return while KW is still with the organization. While my guy did not say Hahn is anti-Ventura, he did say he was tight with Guillen.. All this kinda surprised me because wasn't there a dust up between Hahn and Guillen on twitter? Wow. I never thought Oz would be back. This gives me hope. But what about this twitter war between Oz and Hahn? I don't remember that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 09:21 PM) He's right sometimes, he's wrong sometimes. He's in a position to know the relationship between Hahn and Guillen when Guillen was here. And he could have a great relationship with Buddy Bell, too, for all we know. Even if they were lovers (Hahn and Ozzie), there's not a snowball's chance in Hades of Ozzie being named the Sox manager right now after what transpired in Miami this past season. It's a little bit like the Steve Alford situation vis a vis Indiana. The native son left and managed to look so bad that he never really had a viable option of returning home as coach/manager. Ozzie MIGHT get a 3rd managerial job, but it's going to take another 3-5 years and he's going to have to do an amazing job of convincing that GM/ownership group he's ready to manage again and put the team before promoting himself and his family's interests. Edited September 30, 2012 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I'm tempted to call my guy on 35th street to see if he calls BS. But he wouldn't know who the hell I was. And slowly thinking Marty is Cowley again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Hahn tight with Ozzie? lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 This scenario has less chance of happening than one of Ozzie's kids making a major league roster. Off season stupidity has started early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 10:06 PM) There's plenty of guys on 35th, with the logic of this person, it's most likely one of the crack dealers around there. Looks like, smells like, tastes like, it's gotta be bulls***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 09:08 PM) That's why he has his trip to Spain in the offseason, usually scheduled the first day after the end of the regular season since he doesn't actually expect his teams to qualify...but those for them to fight for 2nd place playoff 1% pool shares. I'd rather have Jerry Manuel or Jeff Torborg at the front of another youth movement than this nonsense. That's bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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