knightni Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 2, 2012 -> 03:11 PM) He's bad offensively, but above average defensively, and he won't make much in arbitration. It's okay to live with a couple black holes on offense if they at least play solid defensively. I think you have to keep him around because you have bigger concerns and limited resources. I think he was decent this year offensively except for batting average - better than the last few years. More walks, less Ks, more HRs, most career hits, most total bases. He is definitely above average defensively. Only 7 errors in 698 chances. .990 F%. Screw stats though, in opinion, mirite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I think he was decent this year offensively except for batting average - better than the last few years. More walks, less Ks, more HRs, most career hits, most total bases. He is definitely above average defensively. Only 7 errors in 698 chances. .990 F%. Screw stats though, in opinion, mirite? Well, errors are a subjective stat and don't speak at all to a player's range, but in this case I think the stats are correct in pegging Beckham as having an excellent year defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 2, 2012 -> 12:40 PM) Barring some ridiculous trade being made by Kenny in the off season, Gordon is going to be back at 2B next year whether people like it or not. With the pitching staff this team has, the organization wants his defense out there. it's cool bro, I'm sure there will be other programs to watch on TV next year while the Sox attempt to win 75-80 games Thank goodness this teams philosophy has been successful though. Two playoff appearances in eight years. They're definitely doing something right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 2, 2012 -> 02:27 PM) I think he was decent this year offensively except for batting average - better than the last few years. More walks, less Ks, more HRs, most career hits, most total bases. He is definitely above average defensively. Only 7 errors in 698 chances. .990 F%. Screw stats though, in opinion, mirite? 2011: .230/.296/.337, .284 wOBA, 70 wRC+, 4.9 UZR (1.0 WAR) 2012: .234/.296/.371, .292 wOBA, 77 wRC+, -0.1 UZR (0.8 WAR) His offense was just marginally better, and all of it due to his slugging (6 extra homers). Either way, it was drastically below average both years. I think the UZR is flukey though, as it is prone to be over a single season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Since switching his stance up he's been a .260 hitter with some pretty good pop (4 HR the last month). I'll take that from a gold glove caliber 2B any day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 2, 2012 -> 02:56 PM) 2011: .230/.296/.337, .284 wOBA, 70 wRC+, 4.9 UZR (1.0 WAR) 2012: .234/.296/.371, .292 wOBA, 77 wRC+, -0.1 UZR (0.8 WAR) His offense was just marginally better, and all of it due to his slugging (6 extra homers). Either way, it was drastically below average both years. I think the UZR is flukey though, as it is prone to be over a single season. His walk rate increased, his strikeout rate decreased, he hit for better power, he had fewer infield flyballs, and he showed the ability to bunt for hits a little too. He needs to work on his swing more but there is reason to believe he can be a .750 OPS guy still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Acquire a good second baseman. Keep Gordon as the utility guy. If he plays himself back into a starting job, great. If not, he'd be one of the best utility infielders the Sox ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Oct 2, 2012 -> 03:15 PM) Acquire a good second baseman. Keep Gordon as the utility guy. If he plays himself back into a starting job, great. If not, he'd be one of the best utility infielders the Sox ever had. Best choice. He has played 2nd,SS,3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I'm sick of Gordon. Mentally he is unable to hit at a consistent clip. His defense is amazing, and the team defense was the best it's been in a long time this year but the bottom line is the offense was a let down, and Gordon was the most glaring candidate. He's had three and a Half years to prove himself and he's failed time and time again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Gordo's defense plays well in a UTIL role, but his bat would be awful there imo. He doesn't have the mental ability to handle a PT role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Voted to keep him, not sure why. Mancrush from 09 still in play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 There would never be a deal done, but the Detroit Tigers would kill to have Gordon Beckham on their team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 We can lose Beckham, but I never want to lose STRONG ARM OF BECKHAMMM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 We will know who Gordon Beckham is for sure by the end of 2013. As Marty pointed out he's near a finished product at this point, so I see no problem in giving him one more year, then if no improvement give consideration to him being a utility guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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