southsider2k5 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 http://www.csnchicago.com/baseball-chicago...&feedID=621 CLEVELAND -- Gavin Floyd has done his best to make the White Sox think long and hard before they determine whether not to bring him back in 2013. The White Sox starting pitcher delivered another strong start in Wednesday’s season finale as he continues to flourish after a recent adjustment to his delivery. Floyd, who has a $9.5 million team option for 2013, limited the Cleveland Indians to three hits and two walks in seven shutout innings. Floyd struck out six as the White Sox won 9-0 at Progressive Field. Floyd went 12-11 with a 4.29 ERA in 29 starts. “I’m optimistic for sure,” Floyd said about his adjustment. “I’m always optimistic and looking forward to next year. They haven’t talked about anything. I hope I’m here for a long time. Chicago has become a second home for us, but it is baseball. It is a business and whatever happens happens.” Bench coach Mark Parent recently suggested Floyd adjust his delivery. The right-hander described the difference in his action as his arm getting out earlier, which has freed him up. Since he made the switch after he returned from his second stint on the disabled list on Sept. 12 (right elbow flexor sprain), Floyd has a 3.03 ERA in 29 2/3 innings. He went 3-2 in the stretch and allowed 21 hits and walked nine batters and 30 strikeouts. “He’s looked great,” manager Robin Ventura said. “Again you’re watching him after he’s come back from being on the DL and is healthy making adjustments and he looked great. He was strong. He probably could have kept going but it’s one of those you’re glad to see.” The fourth overall pick of the 2001 amateur baseball draft, Floyd is excited about the switch and looks forward to working more with it next season. Floyd is headed into his sixth full season in the majors. He will turn 30 in January and is 70-66 in his career. “I’m able to be fluid and a little more aggressive with my pitches,” Floyd said. “It has really freed me up and I feel real good about it.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 The thread title made me think he consulted with his dad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Gavin is what he is at this point. He's a solid middle of the rotation starter who definitely has more value than people on here give him credit for. That being said, he's not going to all the sudden become a top of the rotation starter and if you can get good value for him then you move him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noonskadoodle Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 02:51 PM) Gavin is what he is at this point. He's a solid middle of the rotation starter who definitely has more value than people on here give him credit for. That being said, he's not going to all the sudden become a top of the rotation starter and if you can get good value for him then you move him What's considered "good" value though. The guy may be our only for sure RHP going into next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Assuming that Peavy can be re-signed, the rotation has Sale, Peavy, Danks, and Quintana or Santiago. Then your options for 5th starter are Floyd @ $9M, Myers @ $10, or you can go with both Quintana and Santiago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 01:57 PM) Assuming that Peavy can be re-signed, the rotation has Sale, Peavy, Danks, and Quintana or Santiago. Then your options for 5th starter are Floyd @ $9M, Myers @ $10, or you can go with both Quintana and Santiago. That's a hell of an assumption but I'd like a rotation of Sale, Peavy, Danks, Floyd, Quintana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Floyd is a good middle of the rotation guy who has the stuff to be unhittable at times. With the price of pitching these days, he is absolutely worth the 9.5 million option the team has on him. If the team decides to part ways they could definitely trade and get something for him. I say 0% chance the team doesn't exercise his option and about a 50% on whether they keep or trade him after they exercise the option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 02:51 PM) Gavin is what he is at this point. He's a solid middle of the rotation starter who definitely has more value than people on here give him credit for. That being said, he's not going to all the sudden become a top of the rotation starter and if you can get good value for him then you move him This. If Floyd is your #4 or #5 your rotation isn't in bad shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy the Clown Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 If picking up Floyd's option prevents the Sox from filling their offensive black holes, I'd let him walk. Santiago can replicate his numbers for much less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I am all for moving Floyd. When the games are important, he sucks. That's all I need to know about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I'm all for rebuilding, but i think you wait until the deadline to move Floyd. His value should go up then, same with PK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 03:52 PM) I am all for moving Floyd. When the games are important, he sucks. That's all I need to know about him. You could drop half the roster if that's your criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noonskadoodle Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I'm a Floyd supporter. Sale #2 Danks Floyd Santiago/Q Sounds like a pretty good rotation to me. Wouldnt mind Jake back, but it would def have to be for the right price. He couldve easily won 15 games this year, but our offense didnt show up for him. Guess thats what happens when you face #1 & #2 every time out. If Danks comes back & is his old self again I wouldnt mind: Sale Danks Peavy Floyd Santiago/Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 02:52 PM) I am all for moving Floyd. When the games are important, he sucks. That's all I need to know about him. So does 90% of the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 03:52 PM) I am all for moving Floyd. When the games are important, he sucks. That's all I need to know about him. Floyds a Tiger killer, a lot of important games will be against the Tigers. He's also been good against the rest of the division. With a reasonable option I pick that up all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Floyd's option is valuable... there just isn't many 29 year old, proven, american league starting pitchers that are available for one year contracts under ten million bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 If picking up Floyd's option prevents the Sox from filling their offensive black holes, I'd let him walk. Santiago can replicate his numbers for much less. Then you pick up his option and trade.him. $9.5 mil for Gavin Floyd will find a suitor and we at least get SOMETHING back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 09:02 PM) Floyds a Tiger killer, a lot of important games will be against the Tigers. He's also been good against the rest of the division. With a reasonable option I pick that up all day. Keep in mind the schedule change, I think someone said we're done playing the Tigers by July or we don't play them until July. Too lazy to check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 We don't play them until July. So we should keep Peavy, then trade him before we face the Tigers again, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Floyd's option is valuable... there just isn't many 29 year old, proven, american league starting pitchers that are available for one year contracts under ten million bucks. I have zero doubt that Floyd's option will be picked up. Lots of teams will be making offers for him if the Sox decide not to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Oct 4, 2012 -> 11:29 PM) Then you pick up his option and trade.him. $9.5 mil for Gavin Floyd will find a suitor and we at least get SOMETHING back. I think trading him would be a mistake. There aren't many proven american league starting pitchers with winning records for under 10 mil. On a team with severe budget constraints, he is very valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I think trading him would be a mistake. There aren't many proven american league starting pitchers with winning records for under 10 mil. On a team with severe budget constraints, he is very valuable. I think it ultimately depends on Peavy. If Peavy can be re-signed, Gavin will be gone. If not, he stays. The Sox are in desperate need of some OBP and Gavin is the best trade chip for getting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 09:27 AM) I think it ultimately depends on Peavy. If Peavy can be re-signed, Gavin will be gone. If not, he stays. The Sox are in desperate need of some OBP and Gavin is the best trade chip for getting it. Depends on the player in return. You can never have too much cheap, good starting pitching. I wouldn't sacrifice it unless you get a MLB starting or ready player who will really help the offense. Pitching should still be the primary focus. It's more cost effective to have a good staff and defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I'd rather save that $9.5 million for something else (like a 3B or an ace reliever). I think you can get a similar contribution out of the farm system. Still, Floyd wouldn't be $10 million awfully spent, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 QUOTE (ptatc @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 08:34 AM) Depends on the player in return. You can never have too much cheap, good starting pitching. I wouldn't sacrifice it unless you get a MLB starting or ready player who will really help the offense. Pitching should still be the primary focus. It's more cost effective to have a good staff and defense. How many times does the organization need to learn that lesson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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