ShandyMan Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Konerko: (B) - great start, we all know what happened later Beckham: © - defensive got even better, flashes of hope with the bat especially late Youkilis: (C+) - brought some production to where we were hurting but wasnt that great Alexei: © - what happened to his bat? Tank: (B+) - wasnt amazing, but a good freshman season and thats why he gets a +, repeat next year and its a - De Aza: (B+) - felt like he died down a bit in the second half Rios: (A) - we would have been screwed without him AJ: (A-) - you know its a good season when a PED rumor is believable Dunn: (B) - lets get that average up a bit and this is an A Peavy: (A-) - if i would have told you peavy would pitch as much as he did before the season youd call me crazy Sale: (A+) - will be a perennial cy young option, pray to god his arm doesnt fall off Floyd: (C+) - battled injuries, pitched well at times Quintana: (B) - came from no where, interested to see him next year Liriano: © - flashes of dominance, will benefit from an entire ST with coop Wise: (B+) - amazing pick up Jor. Danks: C - like his attitude, would like him to be our 4th OF Flowers: C - that bat has some serious power if it can develop a bit more Hudson: (F) - gtfo Olmedo: (F) - gtfo Santiago: (C+) - i really like what i saw when he moved to the rotation Reed: (B-) - great first half, seemed fatigued 2nd half Thornton: (B-) - meh Crain: (A-) - why does every underrate him? Jones: (A-) - considering where he came from? awesome Myers: (B-) - losing his stuff, let him walk Robin: (B) - could have been worse, a lot worse KW: (A) - ill be the first to say he got lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 06:55 PM) A: Rios, Pierzysnki, Sale, Peavy, Jones, Veal, Crain B: Konerko, De Aza, Youkilis, Wise, Quintana, Santiago, Crain, Thornton, Myers C+: Dunn, Flowers, Floyd, Reed C-: Beckham, Liriano D: Ramirez, Viciedo, Humber F: Hudson, Morel Crain was busy to get graded twice. Ramirez and Viciedo as D's is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 A = Performed well above salary and reasonable expectations for his abilities and/or roster spot: AJ Rios Sale Quintana Axelrod Jones Wise Veal B = Played very well overall/took big steps forward/etc.; Player probably worth more during this season than he was paid by the Sox; Roster spot easily justified: Reed Crain - slightly outperformed his contract; paid to be a top setup man & he was Myers - his help goes well beyond what the Sox gave him *this* season, however the buyout/possible reworked deal affects this ranking Youkilis Viciedo - haters gonna hate Santiago - he was bad early on but he proved he is a Major League pitcher and a valuable piece Omogrosso Flowers C = Played well enough to earn his salary/roster spot & playing time: Alexei Beckham Dunn Paulie Peavy - $17M + $4M guaranteed buyout = $21M pitcher and that he was definitely not; if you ignore the buyout then he pitched well enough to earn the $17M Thornton Floyd Jordan Danks - happy for him & HR was great but mental mistakes should have him lower at a D; I just like his progress so I'm putting him here D = Performed at a level below what he is paid/played under his roster spot: Humber Stewart Lillibridge Septimo - talent is there & showed enough of it to get another shot at a lefty specialist role when Thornton is traded this offseason F = No excuse for being on the team, let alone the a trip to the pay winda (is Dusty Rhodes still alive?): Uh-Ohman Rongey the Ohman lover with his rah-rah pro-Ohman postgame crap Not grading: Soxtalk whipping boys and/or tiny sample size players & Danks who was injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 QUOTE (staxx @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 07:23 PM) KW: (A) - ill be the first to say he got lucky Then he'd probably be the second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 Just wanted to say I'm done being negative about the past season. I've said enough regarding my disappointment over what I considered a pretty s***ty collapse. The only negativity you'll be seeing from me will be my continued support of Ozzie. On to the offseason. I'm sick of fretting about the past season. It's ova and I'm done b****ing about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 01:44 AM) Just wanted to say I'm done being negative about the past season. I've said enough regarding my disappointment over what I considered a pretty s***ty collapse. The only negativity you'll be seeing from me will be my continued support of Ozzie. On to the offseason. I'm sick of fretting about the past season. It's ova and I'm done b****ing about it. You've b****ed more about this year more than you've b****ed about any other year before, or so it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 08:01 AM) You've b****ed more about this year more than you've b****ed about any other year before, or so it seems. Well I'm done b****ing except in threads about Ozzie. Maybe it's the first year of post-Ozzie finally being over. Hopefully it'll be a productive offseason and maybe next year things will click better from start through finish.I wonder how soon before the Sox will start making some moves? I would think a decision on AJP is coming very soon. If we don't keep him, I'd think we could use a decent backup to go with Flowers. Edited October 9, 2012 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 01:44 AM) Just wanted to say I'm done being negative about the past season. I've said enough regarding my disappointment over what I considered a pretty s***ty collapse. The only negativity you'll be seeing from me will be my continued support of Ozzie. On to the offseason. I'm sick of fretting about the past season. It's ova and I'm done b****ing about it. Oddly worded, yet it works. Negative = Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 01:44 AM) Just wanted to say I'm done being negative about the past season. I've said enough regarding my disappointment over what I considered a pretty s***ty collapse. The only negativity you'll be seeing from me will be my continued support of Ozzie. On to the offseason. I'm sick of fretting about the past season. It's ova and I'm done b****ing about it. collapse> team quitting on manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 A = Performed well above salary and/or reasonable expectations for his abilities and roster spot: Rios Sale Quintana De Aza (A/B close call) B = Played well overall/took big steps forward/etc.; Player probably worth more during this season than he was paid by the Sox, or at least met expectations and provided above-replacement value, or met value and beat expectations... AJP Dunn Konerko (B/C close call) Viciedo Peavy (A against expectations, C against salary) Nate Jones Wise Veal Crain Myers Santiago Omogrosso C = Played at salary and/or expectation levels, give or take: Alexei Beckham (could be B, close call) Reed Youkilis (close to B also) Thornton (could be a D) Floyd JorDanks Flowers Axelrod Escobar D = Performed at a level below his pay grade and/or fell below expectations: Humber Liriano Stewart Lillibridge Septimo Morel Fukudome F = Complete Failure professionally Ohman Olmedo (apparently it was a bad idea to have a last name starting with the letter 'O' this year) INCOMPLETE John Danks Lopez, Johnson, Gimenez and anyone else with not enough playing time to mean anything COACHING STAFF Performance: Ventura: A- Cooper and his group: B+ Manto and his group: B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I forgot about DeAza. He gets an A too. I thought he was a bench player trying to stretch it; turns out he's a legitimate MLB starting OF. He's been one of the better finds on a team full of great finds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 A is for Dan Johnson because I f***ing said so F is for everybody else because OBVIOUSLY FAILURE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 03:14 PM) D = Performed at a level below his pay grade and/or fell below expectations: Humber Liriano Stewart Lillibridge Septimo Morel Fukudome I won't disagree with you, but it's kind of crazy a guy gets a D the same year he throws a perfect game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 10, 2012 -> 01:27 PM) I won't disagree with you, but it's kind of crazy a guy gets a D the same year he throws a perfect game. He gets a F from me. He had a horrible body of work this year, even including the perfect game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 10, 2012 -> 01:27 PM) I won't disagree with you, but it's kind of crazy a guy gets a D the same year he throws a perfect game. Yea, I hate when people judge something based on a single outlier from the rest of their career. Edited October 10, 2012 by Iwritecode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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