southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 http://www.csnchicago.com/baseball-chicago...tm_medium=email Williams: White Sox coaching staff to return October 6, 2012, 6:40 pm DAN HAYES Look for Robin Ventura’s entire coaching staff to return to the White Sox next season. Earlier this week, White Sox general manager Kenny Williams said "yes" when asked if the first-year manager’s staff was expected to return in its entirety. Ventura’s club faded down the stretch after spending 117 days in first place but still won 85 games in his first season at the helm. Ventura took over this season after Ozzie Guillen departed for the Miami Marlins before the end of the 2011 season. Williams said the team would take a few days before it began its work for 2013. “Absolutely,” Williams said on Wednesday. “Sooner rather than later. When something like this happens you have to take a deep breath first. Regroup and then you can get into the business of the offseason.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 No surprise there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 It's OK that they are bringing everybody back, but tell the truth: Manto did no better than Walker and Robin did no better than Ozzie. Just new faces. And Coop is OK, he is no guru. If he was a guru, then Thornton and Myers would not have given up so many big hits. And our starters would not have fallen apart late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Let it go greg, let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) Thought Greg would enjoy this information...by the way, David Samson is Loria's son-in-law. Jeffrey H. Loria (born November 20, 1940[1]) is an art dealer and the owner of the Miami Marlins. Raised in Manhattan, Loria took an early interest in baseball, attending his first New York Yankees game in the late 1940s. Loria attended New York City's Stuyvesant High School[2] and Yale University, where he initially took pre-med courses. With a requirement to take a history class, Loria chose art history. After college, he worked in a newly-established art-buying program for Sears, launched with the help of actor Vincent Price. In 1965, at the age of 24, he opened his private art dealing business, Jeffrey H. Loria & Co., on Manhattan's Upper East Side and wrote a book, Collecting Original Art. He specializes in 20th century masters. His collection includes works by Pablo Picasso and Henry Moore. Loria graduated from Columbia Business School in 1968 and published his second book, What's It All About Charlie Brown?, a look at life through the Peanuts comic strip (co-written with Pat K. Lynch). Loria, who still runs his art dealership, is a member of the board of directors of the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law of Yeshiva University in New York. He formerly served on the board of the Art Dealers Association of America. Loria, who splits time between homes in New York and South Florida, supports hospitals, educational institutions and museums around the world with charitable contributions. from wikipedia.com Edited October 8, 2012 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 7, 2012 -> 07:22 PM) It's OK that they are bringing everybody back, but tell the truth: Manto did no better than Walker and Robin did no better than Ozzie. Just new faces. And Coop is OK, he is no guru. If he was a guru, then Thornton and Myers would not have given up so many big hits. And our starters would not have fallen apart late. Alex Rios is going to disagree with you. I would like to see Coop replaced someday since I think he has become stagnant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 01:21 PM) Alex Rios is going to disagree with you. I would like to see Coop replaced someday since I think he has become stagnant. What makes you think that? Just because he wasn't able to fix Liriano?? I don't see how one can go from a good pitching coach to being a bad one...Did the game change or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 7, 2012 -> 08:22 PM) It's OK that they are bringing everybody back, but tell the truth: Manto did no better than Walker and Robin did no better than Ozzie. Just new faces. And Coop is OK, he is no guru. If he was a guru, then Thornton and Myers would not have given up so many big hits. And our starters would not have fallen apart late. Manto seemed to reach more players, especially Rios and Dunn. Overall, the hitting seemed to be better, so I would disagree that Manto was no better than Walker. Robin did a much better job than Ozzie. If you just compare what Robin did with the 2012 Sox and what Ozzie di with the 2012 Marlins, there's no contest. Ozzie did a terrible job down there, and he got himself in trouble with his mouth right away. The kind of stuff that Ozzie does away from the field does affect a team. He wanted a fresh start, he got it, and he squandered it. Robin did a good job with another of KW's Frankenstein's monster teams. The players respected him, he made a lot of good decisions, and he brought a level of sanity to the clubhouse that has been missing for a few years. No, Robin is not perfect. He made some bad decisions, and he needs to manage his pitchers better. But was he better than Ozzie? Yes, by far. Cooper seems to have a better effect on younger pitchers. There's no doubt that Quintana, Axelrod, Santiago, and Sale benefited from him. Thornton and Myers are both older pitchers that have been losing their stuff for a while now. I'm not sure how much of an effect Cooper had on them or could have had on them. And as far as the starters "falling apart", Quintana and Sale pitched many more innings than they ever have in the past. They got tired, worn down. Quintana was forced into his roll with Danks going down. Santiago was bounced around (he probably should have never been the clsoer), but he seemed to have settled down and could be a decent starter next year. Floyd...I'm not a fan of his, but he went through some injury issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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