caulfield12 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 7, 2013 -> 08:57 AM) Mike Cameron hit 4 homers that game Well, three were off of Parque... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 7, 2013 -> 09:49 AM) For Danks, he usually only gets swings and misses on 20% of swing against him when he's having a good year. I don't know what % of his 86 pitches were swung at, but I would guess his swing & miss % was around 10-15%, which isn't too far off from his normal numbers. He was never the type of pitcher to strike out 200 in a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 7, 2013 -> 10:14 AM) I don't know what % of his 86 pitches were swung at, but I would guess his swing & miss % was around 10-15%, which isn't too far off from his normal numbers. He was never the type of pitcher to strike out 200 in a season. This link may not answer this question directly, but I think a ton of relevant information of the same type can be found here: http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfx.aspx?play...&position=P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 7, 2013 -> 09:20 AM) Cooper was on the radio this morning, and it sure seems like he's trying to get fans to prepare for mediocre velocity from Danks. Also, it sounded like Santiago could get moved from the starting rotation when Danks returns just based on Cooper's assessment of Santiago's contributions to the team. Two things happened at about the same time that the pen fell apart. Gavin Floyd got hurt, and Santiago got moved to the starting rotation. I'm not sure that is coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 7, 2013 -> 10:16 AM) This link may not answer this question directly, but I think a ton of relevant information of the same type can be found here: http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfx.aspx?play...&position=P The internet is amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 7, 2013 -> 09:45 AM) Maybe he wasn't trying to miss bats? There exists a really good chance that he was more throwing his pitches than trying to get batters out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2013 -> 09:33 AM) Two things happened at about the same time that the pen fell apart. Gavin Floyd got hurt, and Santiago got moved to the starting rotation. I'm not sure that is coincidence. In other words, any advantage gained by Santiago in the rotation over Floyd has been nullified by the absence of Santiago, Veal Ver. 2012 and erratic performances from Jones and Lindstrom recently. So we're kind of a stabilization or treading water phase....strengthening one area, but weakening another simultaneously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2013 -> 10:44 AM) There exists a really good chance that he was more throwing his pitches than trying to get batters out. It's like when people freak out about a bad spring training start. Sometimes it's just about working on your pitches, not results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 If John Danks is not hitting 90 he will be massacred at the MLB level. He can not throw strikes consistently enough to get by with mediocre control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 7, 2013 -> 12:25 PM) If John Danks is not hitting 90 he will be massacred at the MLB level. He can not throw strikes consistently enough to get by with mediocre control. In his best year of 2008, he only averaged 90.6 mph, the lowest of his career, until 2012's 90.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:37 PM) In his best year of 2008, he only averaged 90.6 mph, the lowest of his career, until 2012's 90.1 Yeah, I'm not SUPER concerned about it. Pitchers can adapt, but he certainly will have to do that -- his pitching style isn't a perfect match for the type that can sustain some velocity loss. He isn't Mark Buehrle and that's why Coop keeps saying he needs to learn to pitch like him. I don't see any reason, at the moment, to have him come back any sooner than the 30 days he's allowed to rehab though. Let's see how much velocity he can gain back and let him hit any speedbumps in AA/AAA rather than Chicago where we've had a pretty good run of starting pitching so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Starts at 4p. It's a 7-inning game. Hopefully a CG, with a few K's. http://www.milb.com/gameday/index.jsp?gid=...mp;mode=gameday Edited May 7, 2013 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Had this argument here this offseason, but I'll believe a pitcher will return to form after any shoulder surgery only after I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales 2m Scoreless 1st for John Danks at Columbus. 24 pitches, 15 strikes. one walk, one strikeout. Viciedo hit by pitch vs. Trevor Bauer in 1st AB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales 4m John Danks two scoreless, no hits, no runs, two walks, 1 strikeout. 40 pitches, 25 strikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Off topic but Morel has walked twice today. Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ May 7, 2013 -> 10:47 PM) Off topic but Morel has walked twice today. Crazy. It's Trevor Bauer, even Keppinger could possibly draw a walk against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 7, 2013 -> 03:40 PM) Had this argument here this offseason, but I'll believe a pitcher will return to form after any shoulder surgery only after I see it. Many do. However, it's usually only the "cleanup" type surgeries. Danks was more involved than that but I still see no reason as to why he wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales 6m Danks 3 scoreless, 50 pitches, 2 hits, 2 walks, 2 Ks. So by inning 1st 25 pitches 2nd 15 pitches 3rd 10 pitches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 5 walks for Danks. Bauer no hitting Charlotte through 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales 3m Scoreless fifth for Danks, but he's walked 5. 92 pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Final line- 5 inn, 4 hits, 2 runs, 5 bb, 4 k, 1 hr 92 pitches, 52 strikes Bauer 3 outs away from 7-inning no-hitter. He hit Viciedo, Tekotte, and Phegley, and walked three. Edited May 7, 2013 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Loman hit by pitch. That's four for Bauer. Bauer walked the next guy, got two outs, and was pulled one out away at 106 pitches. Carlos Sanchez got a 2-run single to tie it. Morel 2-run homer to take 4-2 lead. Edited May 7, 2013 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 5 walks is going to get him killed pitching for Chicago. It's the new "obvious" stat of the day. 80% of the time when your pitchers give up more walks than your team's hitters compile, you lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 (edited) Flowers, Keppinger and Dunn....the "Sub Mendoza Line Cold Cut Trio," coming to a Subway in your neighborhood. Edited May 8, 2013 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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