LittleHurt05 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 12:46 PM) We get what, 36-38 games against Minnesota and Cleveland? True and I realize that the Sox had their way with those teams last year. But look how much more talent those teams have compared to Houston. Mauer, Morneau, Willingham, Santana, Asdrubal, Swisher, Masterson. Houston's 5th highest paid player is Phil Humber. Yes, that Phil Humber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) With the PED stuff going on in Southern Florida, it'll be interesting to see who retires in the next season or two. Obviously there are going to be those who would have walked away regardless, be it due to age or injury, but undoubtedly there will be those who have rewritten the records for their respective positions and have nothing left to gain, for example, or made enough money to provide a comfortable life for the next several generations of their family without having their name clowned as of yet, so why risk anymore? Maybe we'll see the WBC used as the impromptu vehicle for a last hurrah before bolting to avoid the potential forthcoming s***show this will create. Edited February 5, 2013 by Swingandalongonetoleft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 01:38 PM) With the PED stuff going on in Southern Florida, it'll be interesting to see who retires in the next season or two. I really wonder if they can do anything about those guys anyway. The only "proof" is their names on the guy's notes. How does anyone know for sure that what was given in the notes was actually given and if the MLB players mentioned in the notes were actually the people given the juice. If anything, wouldn't someone use an assumed name when going to these types of places? Especially with as much to lose as an MLB player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 02:46 PM) I really wonder if they can do anything about those guys anyway. The only "proof" is their names on the guy's notes. How does anyone know for sure that what was given in the notes was actually given and if the MLB players mentioned in the notes were actually the people given the juice. If anything, wouldn't someone use an assumed name when going to these types of places? Especially with as much to lose as an MLB player? Think about the other things you'd be doing at the same time though...in order to have your name unaffiliated, you'd have to have the distributor agree to it, you'd have to have a way of paying the distributor without a direct financial record being generated (which is going to start bordering on money laundering really quick), you have to find a way to have people other than the distributor deliver the injections and supplies to you...you have to involve multiple people so there's not one person always traveling to your location from the clinic... Now you're talking about a conspiracy. You're talking about a web of people who might know enough to realize...they can go to the press and get a payday by revealing what they know, and they can trade what they know for legal immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 01:50 PM) Think about the other things you'd be doing at the same time though...in order to have your name unaffiliated, you'd have to have the distributor agree to it, you'd have to have a way of paying the distributor without a direct financial record being generated (which is going to start bordering on money laundering really quick), you have to find a way to have people other than the distributor deliver the injections and supplies to you...you have to involve multiple people so there's not one person always traveling to your location from the clinic... Now you're talking about a conspiracy. You're talking about a web of people who might know enough to realize...they can go to the press and get a payday by revealing what they know, and they can trade what they know for legal immunity. This distributor was one guy. He was already breaking the law. How many different people allegedly delivered stuff to ARod? I read one, the guy who claimed falsely to be a doctor and was the guy making notes. No one saw him in the office, no one else delivered anything to him. I don't think the government is really interested in chasing some random guy pretending to be ARod. ARod is hated, and people want him to be guilty. He may be guilty, I just don't think the proof is out there on this one unless they have something they are keeping secret. It wasn't like the guy was running a legitimate business. The government is more interested in busting the distributor rather than the user. Edited February 5, 2013 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 03:00 PM) This distributor was one guy. He was already breaking the law. How many different people allegedly delivered stuff to ARod? I read one, the guy who claimed falsely to be a doctor and was the guy making notes. No one saw him in the office, no one else delivered anything to him. I don't think the government is really interested in chasing some random guy pretending to be ARod. ARod is hated, and people want him to be guilty. He may be guilty, I just don't think the proof is out there on this one unless they have something they are keeping secret. It wasn't like the guy was running a legitimate business. The government is more interested in busting the distributor rather than the user. But if the distributor has a client like ARod...that client can be his trump card. The government would at least be willing to switch some of the penalties if there is a user that they can make an example of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 02:03 PM) But if the distributor has a client like ARod...that client can be his trump card. The government would at least be willing to switch some of the penalties if there is a user that they can make an example of. That seems to me then he could be trying to protect himself by using a fake client. Maybe he gains some legitimacy and sales if he says ARod is a client when in fact he's not. ARod may have been a client, but he also may have not. He passed MLB's tests. If they suspend him, I'm sure he will get a few lawyers involved, unless there is some more evidence other than hand scribbled notes. Madams get busted with coded lists that supposedly include many famous names all the time, yet the johns rarely, if ever, get into legal trouble. The government wants to shut down the source. This guy distributing to hundreds is a lot more dangerous than ARod applying creams. Edited February 5, 2013 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Chris Carpenter will not pitch this year. Possibly (probably?) done for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 03:09 PM) Chris Carpenter will not pitch this year. Possibly (probably?) done for good. Pretty sure i heard he called a press conference to announce retirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 03:19 PM) Pretty sure i heard he called a press conference to announce retirement I think the press conference was only to announce his injury that will force him to miss the season. If he retires, he will forfeit his $12.5 million salary, so no chance of that, even though he may never pitch again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 03:19 PM) Pretty sure i heard he called a press conference to announce retirement I don't think he was even at the press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 MLB Transactionist @MLBTransactions TAMPA BAY RAYS: Signed pitcher Kyle Farnsworth and second baseman/outfielder Kelly Johnson to one-year contracts; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 paul hoynes @hoynsie Nationals announced they've signed RHP Jeremy Accardo to a min leag deal with invite to spring training. Pitched for #Indians last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 Jeff Fletcher @JeffFletcherOCR #Angels finalize Callaspo's 2-yr $8.975M deal. He'll get $4.1M in '13, $4.875M in '14, plus award bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick Jon Rauch gets a $1M base salary from #marlins with a chance to earn an additional $750,000 in roster bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 Marc Topkin @TBTimes_Rays #Rays DFA Brignac AND elliot johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 MLB Transactionist @MLBTransactions BALTIMORE ORIOLES: Claimed infielder Russ Canzler off waivers from the New York Yankees; designated catcher Luis Martinez for assignment. Jordan Bastian @MLBastian 1B Russ Canzler has been claimed off waiversby Baltimore, via Yankees, via Indians, via Blue Jays, via Indians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 06:53 PM) MLB Transactionist @MLBTransactions BALTIMORE ORIOLES: Claimed infielder Russ Canzler off waivers from the New York Yankees; designated catcher Luis Martinez for assignment. Jordan Bastian @MLBastian 1B Russ Canzler has been claimed off waiversby Baltimore, via Yankees, via Indians, via Blue Jays, via Indians. Is this the dude who destroyed us at the end of last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 DUI for Todd Helton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 07:10 PM) Is this the dude who destroyed us at the end of last season? yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 06:50 PM) Marc Topkin @TBTimes_Rays #Rays DFA Brignac AND elliot johnson Sox should look at Elliot Johnson as a utility guy. He plays pretty much everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 6, 2013 -> 03:59 PM) Sox should look at Elliot Johnson as a utility guy. He plays pretty much everywhere. That would be a nice fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 6, 2013 -> 02:53 PM) DUI for Todd Helton. He was going to buy... lottery tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Mariners are signing Joe Saunders. He might be good in Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 7, 2013 -> 06:50 PM) Mariners are signing Joe Saunders. He might be good in Seattle. Everyone is good in Seattle...that's why extending Felix was ludicrous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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