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QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Feb 12, 2013 -> 08:56 AM)
You're right about the White Sox (at least I hope you are), but Cleveland now has an experienced manager who knows how to win, and an excited fanbase that will probably start showing up to the Jake in droves, which will give them more money to spend at the deadline.

They have drawn 2 million twice the last 10 years. They drew what the Sox drew last year while winning 93 games and only drew 2.2 million when they won 97.

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QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Feb 12, 2013 -> 11:08 AM)
On a side not, I bet my manager that Bourn would make over $8m per year, easiest $5 I've ever made.

 

You should have tried to leverage it into $20 or $50.

 

EDIT: Oh, but not easier than the $10 I made last year. A's fan predicted Manny Ramirez would lead the league in doubles, knowing full well he was suspended. I gave him 10:1 odds at $10 that it wouldn't happen.

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 12, 2013 -> 11:13 AM)
You should have tried to leverage it into $20 or $50.

 

EDIT: Oh, but not easier than the $10 I made last year. A's fan predicted Manny Ramirez would lead the league in doubles, knowing full well he was suspended. I gave him 10:1 odds at $10 that it wouldn't happen.

If he wasn't my manager I would've tried that haha.

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 12, 2013 -> 09:04 AM)
The pitching is still incredibly suspect.

 

I honestly think it's going to be a race for 2nd place anyways, but crazier things have happened. So long as Ventura continues the work he did last year, the Sox are going to be the most fundamentally sound team in the Central once again.

 

Hey, lookey there! We've finally become the team that we've wanted to be for the last 10 years.......The Minnesota Twins!

 

:lol:

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 12, 2013 -> 01:54 PM)
Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS

 

bourn's $48M deal (that can hit $60M) is largest FA guarantee for player who never hit 10 HRs (or slugged .400) in any year

They will wish they never did that deal.

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QUOTE (Cali @ Feb 12, 2013 -> 07:40 PM)
Has there EVERY been a team more set up for unmitigated disaster than the 2013 Dodgers? Like it might be really BAD. Like No playoffs, multiple games behind the division leader bad.

 

Could be, but they have a ridiculous amount of talent. They could legitimately rock like an 8 man rotation - Kershaw, Greinke, Capuano, Billingsley, Beckett, Ryu, Harang, and Lilly. They can trade two starting pitchers and still end up with a pretty damn good pitcher in the bullpen, and their bullpen is already pretty good.

 

That pitching staff alone should get them 85 wins.

 

 

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 12, 2013 -> 05:50 PM)
Could be, but they have a ridiculous amount of talent. They could legitimately rock like an 8 man rotation - Kershaw, Greinke, Capuano, Billingsley, Beckett, Ryu, Harang, and Lilly. They can trade two starting pitchers and still end up with a pretty damn good pitcher in the bullpen, and their bullpen is already pretty good.

 

That pitching staff alone should get them 85 wins.

 

That whole rotation outside of Kershaw is all ?'s to me. Greinke being the biggest with his emotional issues.

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QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Feb 12, 2013 -> 11:19 PM)
Padres might look to add another SP at some point. I don't think this materializes into an opportunity to move Floyd but it is a little interesting based on Headley being a good fit at 3rd.

 

Link: http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/news/articl..._sd&c_id=sd

 

If you want Headley, you better be ready to move Sale.

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QUOTE (Cali @ Feb 12, 2013 -> 08:40 PM)
Has there EVERY been a team more set up for unmitigated disaster than the 2013 Dodgers? Like it might be really BAD. Like No playoffs, multiple games behind the division leader bad.

2011-2012 Boston Red Sox

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 13, 2013 -> 08:18 AM)
2011-2012 Boston Red Sox

 

I still say the '13 Dodgers, since, ya know, they have most of those players from that Red Sox squad haha

 

Add to it Greinke, a new owner that's a Hall of Fame NBA star putting World Series or Bust like pressure on them, and their bitterest division rival coming off of a World Series.

 

Boston also had a series of success going into that season including 2 recent titles, the Dodgers have been floundering for a decade + and endured a terrible owner. It's ALL on them right now.

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QUOTE (Cali @ Feb 13, 2013 -> 12:03 PM)
I still say the '13 Dodgers, since, ya know, they have most of those players from that Red Sox squad haha

 

Add to it Greinke, a new owner that's a Hall of Fame NBA star putting World Series or Bust like pressure on them, and their bitterest division rival coming off of a World Series.

 

Boston also had a series of success going into that season including 2 recent titles, the Dodgers have been floundering for a decade + and endured a terrible owner. It's ALL on them right now.

 

I think part of that is because you are near them. I view the 2011 and 2012 Red Sox as much bigger failures. I'm not sure there's been a team in the majors since September 2011 in the majors than the Red Sox.

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 13, 2013 -> 10:16 AM)
I think part of that is because you are near them. I view the 2011 and 2012 Red Sox as much bigger failures. I'm not sure there's been a team in the majors since September 2011 in the majors than the Red Sox.

 

True, I am closer, and the hype is palpable, but it's not like the Dodgers get ignored nationally. Especially after the spending spree, they're a story.

 

The thing that I think sets them apart is just how much money they spent in the last year, it was such a massive increase, even the Red Sox couldn't top it since they were always big spenders and just spent more.

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 13, 2013 -> 12:16 PM)
I think part of that is because you are near them. I view the 2011 and 2012 Red Sox as much bigger failures. I'm not sure there's been a team in the majors since September 2011 in the majors than the Red Sox.

 

If the Dodgers don't at least get to the playoffs, they would have to be the biggest bomb ever. This is the team that took the "highest payroll" mantle from the Yankees. That makes them the first non-Yankees squad in 15 years to lead MLB in payroll. When you add the billion or so dollars in payroll commitments they have added, to me that would deserve the crown.

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