Jake Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 ADA for Granderson on wouldn't suck. Moving Gavin would become imperative though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 11:08 AM) ADA for Granderson on wouldn't suck. Moving Gavin would become imperative though. ADA for Granderson would be terrible, you'd be downgrading OBP, getting older, more expensive, and on and on. With Rios you'd get rid of a long term commitment who has been incredibly inconsistent, while taking on more cash for this year only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick #Indians have emerged as a prime suitor for Victorino. Terry Francona reached out to him personally earlier in offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal Sources: #Rangers, Hamilton making progress. Deal, if reached, likely would be 4 yrs. But still possible another team could beat TEX offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 DKnobler @DKnobler Diamondbacks sign Eric Hinske. Meanwhile, they're trying to trade Jason Kubel. Some think a deal could happen today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 01:14 PM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal Sources: #Rangers, Hamilton making progress. Deal, if reached, likely would be 4 yrs. But still possible another team could beat TEX offer. JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm Rangers considering signing Hamilton then trading Andrus for Upton and playing Profar at SS despite present position of not trading Andrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Peter Gammons @pgammo Tiger official:"Soriano ain't happening with us" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Boras is probably trying to use Detroits recent freespending ways to drive up the price on Soriano with the Yankees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN Bidding on Marco Scutaro said to have reached something in the range of 3 years, $24 million; SF viewed as frontrunner by source involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS nick swisher will wait for hamilton deal, said @ScottMCBS. word is, he'd like to go to the #SFGiants. #redsox also in play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS Victorino appears to be down to 3 teams, the indians, red sox and a 3rd team. not a true mystery team, I just don't know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Nick Cafardo @nickcafardo Red Sox front runners on Shane Victorino. Offered three year $38 mill deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 03:10 PM) Nick Cafardo @nickcafardo Red Sox front runners on Shane Victorino. Offered three year $38 mill deal. Ellsbury and Victorino as the 1-2 seems pretty good...if Ellsbury will stay healthy. Victorino's offensive numbers dipped a lot last year. It'll be interesting to see his transition to the AL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 02:22 PM) Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN Bidding on Marco Scutaro said to have reached something in the range of 3 years, $24 million; SF viewed as frontrunner by source involved. That is a lot of money and years for a 37 year old singles hitter. Lots of goofy contracts being given out. $38 million for Victorino? I've always really liked him, but he was incredibly mediocre last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 03:20 PM) That is a lot of money and years for a 37 year old singles hitter. Lots of goofy contracts being given out. $38 million for Victorino? I've always really liked him, but he was incredibly mediocre last year. beat me to it. He was really good for the Giants, but signing him until he is 40 is not what I would call responsible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalls2598 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 03:17 PM) Ellsbury and Victorino as the 1-2 seems pretty good...if Ellsbury will stay healthy. Victorino's offensive numbers dipped a lot last year. It'll be interesting to see his transition to the AL. According to WEEI's Alex Speier, the Red Sox have agreed to a three-year deal with Shane Victorino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 QUOTE (smalls2598 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 04:37 PM) According to WEEI's Alex Speier, the Red Sox have agreed to a three-year deal with Shane Victorino. 3 years, $39 million. Awful deal IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 05:29 PM) 3 years, $39 million. Awful deal IMO. B.J. Upton's deal looks good now. Victorino's a 3 win player, maybe more. But he's declining and aging. If he can give you 12 wins over a 3 year period, then maybe the $40 million is worth it. But your net value based on the contract $ is very low. You're basically breaking even in terms of WAR $. IMO, good deals aren't about breaking even. Edited December 4, 2012 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 05:29 PM) 3 years, $39 million. Awful deal IMO. I love that Cherington cleared all that salary in the Dodgers mega-deal and then spends a big chunk of it on two average free agents. What a waste of f***ing money, but I guess that's what happens when you try to rebuild in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 05:41 PM) I love that Cherington cleared all that salary in the Dodgers mega-deal and then spends a big chunk of it on two average free agents. What a waste of f***ing money, but I guess that's what happens when you try to rebuild in free agency. This. I own a Dodgers cap that I wasn't sure was ever going to be worn again after they presented Boston with a Get Out of Jail Free card. Of all teams, Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Yunel Escobar to Rays. LOL Marlins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 5, 2012 -> 04:00 AM) Yunel Escobar to Rays. LOL Marlins. Getting rid of him right away is probably a good call by the Marlins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 5, 2012 -> 03:00 AM) Yunel Escobar to Rays. LOL Marlins. Jon Morosi @jonmorosi Official: #Rays acquire shortstop Yunel Escobar from the Miami Marlins in exchange for minor league infielder Derek Dietrich. DKnobler @DKnobler One AL exec on Yunel's short stay with Marlins: "First place he hasn't worn out his welcome." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) I'm surprised that no one mentioned Dale Sveum got shot by Robin Yount Edited December 5, 2012 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 A great reason why this off-season has been insane. DKnobler @DKnobler According to http://baseball-reference.com , Scutaro made $22 million in 9 full seasons before turning 37. Now he makes $20 mill for next 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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