Balta1701 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 How to make the royals competitive in the AL Central using WAR numbers. It's not wholly unreasonable...it winds up requiring their young guys to get better somewhat and no one to fall flat/get hurt, which puts them above .500...and then basically needs 1 or 2 guys to take a major step forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 Adam Rubin @AdamRubinESPN Very pointed comments from R.A. Dickey. Said he likely would be a goner after 2013 season as free agent if Mets just let extension play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Dickey the last 3 years has a 2.95 ERA and a 1.150 WHIP averaging over 200 innings a year. He's been pretty great. He makes $5 million in 2013 and wants $10 million for 2 years after that. That averages less than $9 million a year, less than Gavin Floyd. I know he's 38, but he throws knuckleballs, granted a little harder than most, but I really can't understand why the Mets won't extend him. Edited December 11, 2012 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 10:03 AM) Dickey the last 3 years has a 2.95 ERA and a 1.150 WHIP averaging over 200 innings a year. He's been pretty great. He makes $5 million in 2013 and wants $10 million for 2 years after that. That averages less than $9 million a year, less than Gavin Floyd. I know he's 38, but he throws knuckleballs, granted a little harder than most, but I really can't understand why the Mets won't extend him. Yeah, I don't get it. They should do it just to appease the fanbase. They are a large market team that has done a s***ty job of roster management and isn't very close to competing. Suddenly, a Cy Young winner falls in your lap, he's a great story, and fun to watch to pitch. It's not like he's asking for a potentially cripping Johan-type extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 11:34 AM) Yeah, I don't get it. They should do it just to appease the fanbase. They are a large market team that has done a s***ty job of roster management and isn't very close to competing. Suddenly, a Cy Young winner falls in your lap, he's a great story, and fun to watch to pitch. It's not like he's asking for a potentially cripping Johan-type extension. I dunno...but if they won't do it, it sure as heck is going to scare off everyone else a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 DKnobler @DKnobler can confirm @Jim_Duquette report that Tigers were trying hard for Shields before he was traded to Royals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 11:34 AM) Yeah, I don't get it. They should do it just to appease the fanbase. They are a large market team that has done a s***ty job of roster management and isn't very close to competing. Suddenly, a Cy Young winner falls in your lap, he's a great story, and fun to watch to pitch. It's not like he's asking for a potentially cripping Johan-type extension. The problem with Dickey (ok, I'm going to give up and snicker) is that there are legitimately no comparisons for him. He doesn't throw like anyone else, so you can't project him...and normally, pitchers at his age would be looking at a precipitous falloff in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 He really doesn't want his stadium remodel, does he? Becky Yerak @beckyyerak Cubs' Ricketts to @acgchicago: Obama administration "somewhat hostile" to businesses, which now fear investing. Lower growth = "new normal" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo In last 6 months, @Dodgers spent $600+ million on players. #Rays have spent $638M on opening day payrolls in their 15-yr existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 01:21 PM) The problem with Dickey (ok, I'm going to give up and snicker) is that there are legitimately no comparisons for him. He doesn't throw like anyone else, so you can't project him...and normally, pitchers at his age would be looking at a precipitous falloff in the near future. Last season I remember him facing Chien-Ming Wang. I realize the uncertainty, but given all the circumstances in this situation, holding on to him for 2013 without an extension is the worst possible move, especially considering how little he is asking for relatively. Either trade him for young prospects or give him a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 02:15 PM) Last season I remember him facing Chien-Ming Wang. I realize the uncertainty, but given all the circumstances in this situation, holding on to him for 2013 without an extension is the worst possible move, especially considering how little he is asking for relatively. Either trade him for young prospects or give him a deal. If he threw 95, they would sign him to an extension for a lot more than he's asking, yet moving forward, a 38 year old knuckleballer would seem to have a better shelf life than a 38 year old power pitcher. I could understand if it has just been one season or a season and a half, but he's been great for 3 seasons. It baffles me. The guy is a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 DKnobler @DKnobler Reds deep in talks on deal to acquire Shin-soo Choo from Indians for Stubbs and Gregorius. http://cbsprt.co/UfMpzf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) ^ Just about to post that. Good move for both teams if Gregorius pans out. Edited December 11, 2012 by flavum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 03:09 PM) ^ Just about to post that. Good move for both teams if Gregorius pans out. Good move for the White Sox as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 03:10 PM) Good move for the White Sox as well... Yes. Nice to see Choo out of the AL. Man, I'm ready for the Sox to do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Sounds like this may be a 3-way, with Gregorius ending up in Arizona. This could be the beginning of the dominoes falling. Indians will get Stubbs and a pitcher--Bauer or Corbin from Arizona Dbacks get Gregorius Reds get Choo and Donald Edited December 12, 2012 by flavum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Napoli may not have passed his physical with Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) D-backs tweet: https://twitter.com/Dbacks/status/278684533979758594 Bauer to the Indians. Edited December 12, 2012 by flavum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 @Dbacks: OFFICIAL: #Dbacks acquire SS Didi Gregorius, LHP Tony Sipp & 1B Lars Anderson from CLE for RHPs Trevor Bauer, Matt Albers and Bryan Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Really nice trade by the Indians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Love it for Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Arizona did not get enough for Bauer IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 08:34 PM) Arizona did not get enough for Bauer IMO. I agree. Bauer's stock probably went down a little last year after a poor performance at the ML level, but I still regard him as a very good ML-ready prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 That's shocking!!! How they just gave up on Bauer? I think his stubbornness and not willing to change his pitching approach got him shipped out. Wish the White Sox would of jumped on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 09:52 PM) That's shocking!!! How they just gave up on Bauer? I think his stubbornness and not willing to change his pitching approach got him shipped out. Wish the White Sox would of jumped on that. I've heard similar things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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