SOXOBAMA Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 David O'Brien @ajcbraves A possible deal that would make sense for #Braves is Denard Span for CF/leadoff. #Twins want a pitcher; ATL has 1 or 2 they'd trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 03:20 PM) David O'Brien @ajcbraves A possible deal that would make sense for #Braves is Denard Span for CF/leadoff. #Twins want a pitcher; ATL has 1 or 2 they'd trade Didn't they have a deadline deal done that Span veto'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 depends who you ask. Some say Span nixed the deal to the Reds, some say he didnt, it just didnt get done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 03:22 PM) Didn't they have a deadline deal done that Span veto'd? No. It was a bad report. Span doesn't have a no trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Impressive. Bay made out like a bandit. Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS Jason Bay got a better deal going than coming. Keeps the $21M (some deferred), saves ny tax, no offset provision. #mets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Rangers have strong interest in Justin Upton (obviously to replace Hamilton), but do not want to give up Andrus or Profar. I figure with the 3B need, the DBacks would be trying for Olt anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Blue Jays Close To Deal With Maicer Izturis Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/blue...gDVsagMDXLT6.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 02:25 PM) I have read through a couple dozen versions of this story, and I can't find one that talks about his pay next year at all. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...lb&c_id=mlb A baseball source confirmed that Bay will receive his full remaining salary ($16 million), 2014 option buyout ($3 million) and outstanding signing bonus ($2 million), but will defer a portion of that money to future years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Nov 8, 2012 -> 01:36 PM) http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...lb&c_id=mlb So everyone clearly expected that he would not be claimed and this option allowed them Mets to defer some of the money rather than pay it all this year when inevitably, someone would take a chance on him for the minimum salary. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Nov 8, 2012 -> 01:36 PM) http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...lb&c_id=mlb This is the part that was up for debate Though Bay will lose some current value on the deal, which typically irks the players' union, the MLBPA approved it knowing he can recoup those dollars by signing with another team. Several rival GMs indicated Tuesday that the market for Bay should be vibrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 8, 2012 -> 03:18 PM) This is the part that was up for debate I believe the only current value he loses is the current value of the money, as opposed to the deferred value of the money. To offset that, he can sign a deal for probably $1-2 million in 2013 in addition to what he will already be getting paid by the Mets. I am surprised that is even within the bounds of the CBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 8, 2012 -> 03:24 PM) I believe the only current value he loses is the current value of the money, as opposed to the deferred value of the money. To offset that, he can sign a deal for probably $1-2 million in 2013 in addition to what he will already be getting paid by the Mets. I am surprised that is even within the bounds of the CBA. The only thing the Players Union would fight is if he gave up any dollars over all. If he gets them now, or in the future, they can't stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 8, 2012 -> 04:29 PM) The only thing the Players Union would fight is if he gave up any dollars over all. If he gets them now, or in the future, they can't stop. Yeah, I understand that...where I raised an eyebrow is that the League will allow him to essentially be drawing two full salaries in a given season simultaneously...but I suppose the deferral makes that technically untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 8, 2012 -> 04:33 PM) Yeah, I understand that...where I raised an eyebrow is that the League will allow him to essentially be drawing two full salaries in a given season simultaneously...but I suppose the deferral makes that technically untrue. That's what I was saying from the beginning. Bay wins out big in this deal. He gets MORE money for being EXTRA terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 8, 2012 -> 05:09 PM) That's what I was saying from the beginning. Bay wins out big in this deal. He gets MORE money for being EXTRA terrible. Not necessarily, but certainly possible. It depends on whether the deferral causes him to lose more money than the contract he ultimately signs this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 8, 2012 -> 05:20 PM) Not necessarily, but certainly possible. It depends on whether the deferral causes him to lose more money than the contract he ultimately signs this year. Don't forget he is also saving tax money. I can't imagine inflation would cost him more money than tax free money + new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS #mariners have reached out to russell martin & mike napoli. also looking at corner OF bats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Jon Morosi @jonmorosi Anibal Sanchez is asking for around $90 million, sources say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Red Sox sign Terry Doyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS #mariners looking at swisher. gm jack zduriencik has connection to his dad steve. More important, they seek corner bats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Jon Morosi @jonmorosi #Tigers have offered a contract to Jeremy Bonderman, sources tell http://FOXSports.com . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 ESPN "Sources" say that the Rangers wont go past 3 years for Hamilton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 9, 2012 -> 10:47 AM) Jon Morosi @jonmorosi #Tigers have offered a contract to Jeremy Bonderman, sources tell http://FOXSports.com . I hope he makes the rotation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 9, 2012 -> 11:04 AM) ESPN "Sources" say that the Rangers wont go past 3 years for Hamilton Solid planning by the Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 9, 2012 -> 12:04 PM) ESPN "Sources" say that the Rangers wont go past 3 years for Hamilton Completely reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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