Steve9347 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Come on, boys! The man is apparently no longer the General Manager of the Chicago White Sox! Say what you will, Kenny Williams was a fun GM, and his 04/05 offseason was a tidal wave of greatness. In KW, I will always love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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witesoxfan Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Grandes bolas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 03:40 PM) Grandes bolas Stealth bomber strikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 We won a WS during his watch which frankly may never happen again so cheers to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 04:22 PM) We won a WS during his watch which frankly may never happen again so cheers to him. Your optimism baffles me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Steve's first bunch of pics "appreciate the man" Steve's second bunch of pics "tar and feather this man!" Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 2, 2012 Author Share Posted November 2, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 04:31 PM) Steve's first bunch of pics "appreciate the man" Steve's second bunch of pics "tar and feather this man!" Lol Kinda KW in a nutshell. At least I didn't put Robbie Alomar on there twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Not sure why Youk would be in the 2nd group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted November 2, 2012 Author Share Posted November 2, 2012 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 04:45 PM) Not sure why Youk would be in the 2nd group. Rios either. I didn't plan it that way, I was just posting pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 04:45 PM) Rios either. I didn't plan it that way, I was just posting pics. If you take into account Aug-Sep 2009 & 2011, Rios definitely deserves to be in that group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 04:45 PM) Rios either. I didn't plan it that way, I was just posting pics. Ah, I thought it was separated for a reason. I would have argued with Rios (and possibly Dunn now) but gave benefit of the doubt. Couldn't you find a photo of him flipping a buffet table? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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witesoxfan Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 "You can't spend a dollar when you only have fifty cents" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Out of all the prospects KW has traded, Gio is the only one really worth talking about. Even ones who did well - at least for a while - had injury issues (like Hudson), or never became what they were supposed to as a regular (ex Young, Olivo), or flat out busted (Reed), or took a long time to develop into anything significant (Morse, possibly Carter). In the meantime, he managed to acquire a lot of very good players for very little, didn't make any Theo-esque horrid FA signings like Crawford or Lackey, and he found a way to put contending teams out there most of the time, even if they choked on the Twins/Tigers/Royals when it mattered. He also showed lots of guts in constantly trying to win. He only made a few moves that couldn't be justified at the time and still can't be justified in hindsight. Overall he added to the organization more than he subtracted, and during his tenure the Sox became more of a nationally relevant franchise again, even if it's still seen as being in the shadow of the Cubs. Kenny has been an excellent GM & I am sad to see him go, however scaling back his duties to focus more on macro issues may end up making better use of *some* of his strengths. One strength that he won't be able to call on anymore is his highly emotional aggressiveness, which was an excellent quality to have in a GM when you're stuck with a worm-doing sky-pointing retard who likes to stand at the dish and watch pitches until the umpire tells him to either walk to first or go back to the dugout. The 2nd Swisher deal is one of my favorite KW moves, also the Jon Rauch thing was great to see too. Mostly though I think his best strengths are in scouting and finding values wherever they may present themselves, and I think he'll continue to serve the organization well by picking key points and focusing on each one in greater detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I give props to Kenny for helping the Sox win their only World Series in my lifetime. I also loved how he was always pretty much in "buying" mode. I have never wanted the Sox to junk everyone and try to rebuild. That seldom works well, and no one really wants to endure horrible play during a tear-down process. For example, would you want to be a Kansas City or Cleveland fan? Kenny didn't always get the right guys, but the list of guys who have starred for other teams after he let them go is pretty short. And he was always willing to take risks, and coax Jerry Reinsdorf into opening his checkbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I'm still upset to this day about how long Andy Gonzalez was up at the MLB level in '07 while Jason Bourgeois was in Charlotte and had so much more capability. That wasn't a 100% GM kind of decision though, I'd assume. Other than that, KW has never done anything that absolutely infuriated me, and for the most I've been pleased with his tenure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 05:25 PM) I'm still upset to this day about how long Andy Gonzalez was up at the MLB level in '07 while Jason Bourgeois was in Charlotte and had so much more capability. That wasn't a 100% GM kind of decision though, I'd assume. Other than that, KW has never done anything that absolutely infuriated me, and for the most I've been pleased with his tenure. Andy Gonzalez was once a prospect we were supposed to be on the lookout for. Turns out he was garbage, but I think he played just to make sure that he was what we thought he was. The big misses that year were Grinderstad as the Opening Day starter over homegrown 1st Round pick Anderson & not calling up Sweeney. But in hindsight, it's obvious the Sox had moved on from Ryan and just wanted to preserve his trade value by limiting his service time as much as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 05:49 PM) Andy Gonzalez was once a prospect we were supposed to be on the lookout for. Turns out he was garbage, but I think he played just to make sure that he was what we thought he was. The big misses that year were Grinderstad as the Opening Day starter over homegrown 1st Round pick Anderson & not calling up Sweeney. But in hindsight, it's obvious the Sox had moved on from Ryan and just wanted to preserve his trade value by limiting his service time as much as possible. The Sox were right on Anderson. He sucked and never amounted to anything, even after he left Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 05:25 PM) I'm still upset to this day about how long Andy Gonzalez was up at the MLB level in '07 while Jason Bourgeois was in Charlotte and had so much more capability. That wasn't a 100% GM kind of decision though, I'd assume. Other than that, KW has never done anything that absolutely infuriated me, and for the most I've been pleased with his tenure. I think our Agon was around for so long because of that 12 pitch AB against Zumaya in the 9th. That was f***ing awesome and I'll never forget it. Even I thought he was gonna be great after that. KW is a great, great man. From his perfect word choice to his lack of knee-jerk, emotional reactions, he will be missed. Don't disappear on me now KW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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