chw42 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 The Royals also tried trading Myers to Oakland for Brett Anderson only to be turned down, Passan writes. Wow Billy Beane, did you seriously just turn down Myers for Brett Anderson? I really like Anderson, but the guy never stays healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 11:31 AM) So who is they mystery "lefty impact bat" that the Sox want to add? Cano? Mauer? If the Sox mgmt thought they could get Mauer they would unload almost anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 01:01 PM) If the Sox mgmt thought they could get Mauer they would unload almost anything. If that is the case, thank God the Twins have refused to deal him. That is a horrible contract, and there is no promise that getting out of Target Field would bring back his power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 01:02 PM) If that is the case, thank God the Twins have refused to deal him. That is a horrible contract, and there is no promise that getting out of Target Field would bring back his power. It would bring some of his power, you can tell by the spray charts and what other players do when they visit. Second, although his contract is bad, its not horrible. If you could plug him in at 1B for the next several years in US Cellular he would be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 02:07 PM) It would bring some of his power, you can tell by the spray charts and what other players do when they visit. Second, although his contract is bad, its not horrible. If you could plug him in at 1B for the next several years in US Cellular he would be worth it. He'll be worth 6 years/$138 million as a first baseman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Shields is a good pickup for the Royals -- even if they only win 80 games this year. It's really hard to build a winner from scratch in a single offseason. Sometimes it takes a few years of collecting talent and gaining momentum. The problem is they paid WAY too much. This package would have been a reasonable offer for someone like Felix. Guys like Myers don't get moved for #2 starters making $11m a year for two years. Yes, prospects bust in general, but projectable hitters that rake AAA at age 21 typically don't. It isn't as simple as labelling him a lottery ticket like most other guys. This dude is a consensus top 2 or 3 overall prospect who is absolutely knocking at the door. And, his at bats will go to Francoeur, who was worth a staggering -2.7 WAR last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 This should be continued in DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 So with Shields off the market are there any SPs better than Floyd who are openly available via trade?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 02:45 PM) So with Shields off the market are there any SPs better than Floyd who are openly available via trade?? RA Dickey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 01:45 PM) So with Shields off the market are there any SPs better than Floyd who are openly available via trade?? Trevor Bauer has more value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 09:14 AM) Another Sox example of this was KW dumping Carlos Lee for Pods & Vizcaino. Ignorance. That trade also freed up finances to sign AJ AND Iguchi. If Carlos Lee was on the Sox in 2005 - we'd still be World Seriesless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 11:31 AM) So who is they mystery "lefty impact bat" that the Sox want to add? Cano? Mauer? FWIW...Talks progressing for a guy that's been on the short wishlist lately. Conflicting make up concerns but when healthy, dude can slug and plays the game KW "tough". Deal has a good chance as of yesterday. Some risk but could be an impact move. Corresponding move(s) likely required which is the hold up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 08:03 PM) FWIW...Talks progressing for a guy that's been on the short wishlist lately. Conflicting make up concerns but when healthy, dude can slug and plays the game KW "tough". Deal has a good chance as of yesterday. Some risk but could be an impact move. Corresponding move(s) likely required which is the hold up. Interesting... Uh Josh Hamilton? lol LoMo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Logan Morrison and Colby Rasmus come immediately to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 08:15 PM) Logan Morrison and Colby Rasmus come immediately to mind. I don't want Rasmus. LoMo I can deal with. I really liked Rasmus two years ago, but I've soured on him since. Neither are big time improvements over what we have right now though. Edited December 11, 2012 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) What about Choo? He's had off the field issues too and can slug better than LoMo or Rasmus. Is he a "tough" KW type though? Edited December 11, 2012 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 08:23 PM) What about Choo? He's had off the field issues too and can slug better than LoMo or Rasmus. Is he a "tough" KW type though? Choo was so tough he skipped out on military service. I'd love to have him though. He'd make a great #2 or #3 hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Grady Sizemore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Jay Bruce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Well, that would continue our tradition of acquiring Indians about five years too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Neither Rasmus nor LoMo are any kind of KW tough unless I'm misinterpreting what it really means. Please no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 08:46 PM) Grady Sizemore He'd be a good guy for the Cubs or Astros to take a chance on for one year, but if the Sox are trying to contend in 2013, they need to keep Viciedo, De Aza, and Rios. I wouldn't clear a spot for a guy who didn't play last year and has been hurt several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 08:03 PM) FWIW...Talks progressing for a guy that's been on the short wishlist lately. Conflicting make up concerns but when healthy, dude can slug and plays the game KW "tough". Deal has a good chance as of yesterday. Some risk but could be an impact move. Corresponding move(s) likely required which is the hold up. Chase Utley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 08:47 PM) Jay Bruce. Does Jay Bruce have questionable makeup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 10, 2012 -> 08:55 PM) Chase Utley? Where are the make up concerns with him? Hopefully it's Choo, and the Indians are just waiting on Swisher's decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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