southsider2k5 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 05:54 PM) There has to be someone out there that would be better than Jack Hannahan at 3B. Hopefully this tweet is true and Hahn is trying to get creative, because settling for crap this early in the off-season is completely unacceptable IMO. I always laugh when people use things like "unacceptable". Like they could enforce a consequence for the teams actions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 5, 2012 -> 02:07 AM) I always laugh when people use things like "unacceptable". Like they could enforce a consequence for the teams actions... Stomp your feet real hard and scream loudly maybe, but that's it. Let's hope we do something that makes sense and helps the team. I am sure Hahn isn't going to make a trade just to make a trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I'd be fine with a Keppinger or Chavez type, but to settle for Jack Hannahan right now is crazy to me. I'd rather just wait and see if someone becomes available later in the offseason with Sanchez or Beckham being a plan D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 07:07 PM) I always laugh when people use things like "unacceptable". Like they could enforce a consequence for the teams actions... I can't force s***, but I will stop going to 30+ games a year if Brent Morel is our 3B next year. Not sure what wrong with my statement, but please keep post padding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 The Sox were still doing OK with a worthless Morel and then Hudson in 2011. Hannahan/Morel would be depressing, without a doubt but still an upgrade over the first half of 2011, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 07:26 PM) The Sox were still doing OK with a worthless Morel and then Hudson in 2011. Hannahan/Morel would be depressing, without a doubt but still an upgrade over the first half of 2011, But the biggest mistake people make is assume they can expect repeat years from year to year.......from anyone. Thus, we need to upgrade wherever possible, because the drop off in production we'll get from--whoever, De Aza, Rios, catcher spot-- has to be offset at least SOME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 07:29 PM) But the biggest mistake people make is assume they can expect repeat years from year to year.......from anyone. Thus, we need to upgrade wherever possible, because the drop off in production we'll get from--whoever, De Aza, Rios, catcher spot-- has to be offset at least SOME. That works both ways... Good and bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 07:29 PM) But the biggest mistake people make is assume they can expect repeat years from year to year.......from anyone. Thus, we need to upgrade wherever possible, because the drop off in production we'll get from--whoever, De Aza, Rios, catcher spot-- has to be offset at least SOME. There is reason to believe several White Sox will be better. Maybe they won't . There usually are a couple of surprises both good and bad. I do agree, the roster still needs some work, and something will be done. They are serious about competing next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 07:40 PM) That works both ways... Good and bad. I suppose. Career years from CF, RF, C spots. Sort of a career year from LF, and an aging 1B. We absolutely have to see 3B as a place to make some hey for whatever dropoffs are expected in those slots. Really I just see SS as the place to get some bounce back from '12-- but not a ton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowand's rowdies Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Can we live with whoever we can throw at 3b if we can land ellsbury? red sox are shopping him for pitching help... ellsbury and salty for floyd, thornton, crain, phegley, prospect, prospect any thoughts? he is a guy you build around esp with the idea of him at the cell.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Darren Wolfson @DarrenWolfson Told Jack Hannahan has a major league offer and it's not the #MNTwins. He'll wait because MN is his preference, but only for so long. https://twitter.com/DarrenWolfson Ah **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I asked him about it Darren Wolfson @DarrenWolfson Re: Hannahan -- According to @hoynsie, likely. RT @ImDaBaron: @DarrenWolfson White Sox? https://twitter.com/DarrenWolfson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Great, a terrible player who doesn't want to be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 09:56 PM) I suppose. Career years from CF, RF, C spots. Sort of a career year from LF, and an aging 1B. We absolutely have to see 3B as a place to make some hey for whatever dropoffs are expected in those slots. Really I just see SS as the place to get some bounce back from '12-- but not a ton. If this team is gonna compete barring a major move, 2b, the bullpen, and te starting pitching are where they can get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 The Indians don't want him, the Twins don't want him........On the other hand he won't cost much, I suppose it wouldn't necessarily be the White Sox final answer at 3B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 07:26 PM) The Sox were still doing OK with a worthless Morel and then Hudson in 2011. Hannahan/Morel would be depressing, without a doubt but still an upgrade over the first half of 2011, We would have been a much better team with a legit 3B during the 1st half. Who knows how many games that cost us and if things would have turned out differently. I'm a very optimistic fan and I honestly feel like this team will have a real shot next year with a few tweaks, but if we go into 2013 with another black-hole at 3B then I'll lose most of my hope. We don't need an impact player there, just league average production and Brent Morel has shown no signs of being even close to level of player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Signing Hanrahan isn't a terrible move given the market for 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 08:27 PM) We would have been a much better team with a legit 3B during the 1st half. Who knows how many games that cost us and if things would have turned out differently. I'm a very optimistic fan and I honestly feel like this team will have a real shot next year with a few tweaks, but if we go into 2013 with another black-hole at 3B then I'll lose most of my hope. We don't need an impact player there, just league average production and Brent Morel has shown no signs of being even close to level of player. There just isn't anything out there at third that's worth the risk/reward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 01:23 PM) Some NYpost thing --Carl “American Idle” Pavano has changed agents once again, going from Tom O’Connell to Dave Pepe, who represents Pavano’s former Twins teammate Joe Nathan. He’s coming off an injury-plagued 2012 season and turns 37 in January, but he’d be a good low-risk pickup for someone. Possible fits? I say Miami, where he helped the 2003 Marlins get a World Series title, and the White Sox, whose pitching coach Don Cooper is one of the best. This got lost in whatever was being discussed. Pavano+Coop+Herm could = a good pickup. If it means we get a good piece for Floyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 09:31 PM) Signing Hanrahan isn't a terrible move given the market for 3B. Signing the Pirates closer to play 3B for us might be a terrible move. In seriousness, Hannahan isn't a starting-caliber 3B, but very close. Given the lack of options out there, it wouldn't be a move worth getting upset over. His defense is very good, that's where his value is. He's definitely below average with the bat, but it's a third lefty in the lineup. I imagine he'd sign for somewhere around $1.5M on a 1-year deal and be worth almost two wins over a full season if Herm could keep him healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 07:48 PM) There is reason to believe several White Sox will be better. Maybe they won't . There usually are a couple of surprises both good and bad. I do agree, the roster still needs some work, and something will be done. They are serious about competing next year. I still think everyone is going to be surprised by Morel this year. He injured his back in SP and couldn't swing the bat with any authority. We still don't know if he can hit MLB pitching but it will be better than last year. We know he can play defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 The Sox are aiming higher than Jack Hanahan right now for 3B. Lots of plates spinning tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 5, 2012 -> 03:31 AM) Signing Hanrahan isn't a terrible move given the market for 3B. If you do bring him in, you better upgrade at some other position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) http://www.csnchicago.com/baseball-chicago...69535988938-914 Ill post this here to. What the article seems to suggest is the White Sox stance on AJ may have changed with the lack of options on the market especially at 3B. Edited December 5, 2012 by Baron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Saw the Red Sox are willing to deal Jacoby Elsbury on Mlbtraderumors... Given that he is coming of an injury plagued season, and given the fact that he is a free agent in 2014 and they just signed Victorino, I could believe it. Any chance the Sox could pry him away for Gavin and a reliever? Would the Sox even want to do that? Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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