RockRaines Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:21 PM) Im pretty sure that you wont be able to bring a gun into a school regardless. I didnt mean school since I am 31 and dont take classes. But in general, like a mall or something. We are at the mercy of crazy armed people in those situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:27 PM) 18 little kids pointlessly killed. Thats what I dont get, what was your point in shooting kids? Bullied? Lonely? Whatever. Those kids did NOTHING to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 @JoshElliottABC: Sources tell @ABC's @ChrisCuomo that one shooter was 24 years old, armed with four weapons, wearing a bulletproof vest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:29 PM) Thats what I dont get, what was your point in shooting kids? Bullied? Lonely? Whatever. Those kids did NOTHING to you. Worse...I believe one of the kids was the shooters own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:29 PM) Thats what I dont get, what was your point in shooting kids? Bullied? Lonely? Whatever. Those kids did NOTHING to you. I wonder if the shooter was a parent of a student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:29 PM) @JoshElliottABC: Sources tell @ABC's @ChrisCuomo that one shooter was 24 years old, armed with four weapons, wearing a bulletproof vest. What in the f*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:27 PM) Once pandora's box is open, there is no going back. Outside of metal detectors in every school, public building, etc, there is no real way to stop this type of crime. You can potentially limit the death count, but you cant stop it. Even then it wouldn't be enough. "How hey old man security guard manning the metal detector. POP!" Well, there goes stopping the person at the front door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:28 PM) I didnt mean school since I am 31 and dont take classes. But in general, like a mall or something. We are at the mercy of crazy armed people in those situations. As I said previously, unless you plan on installing metal detectors in every single public place, you are never going to stop this type of violence. And even once you have metal detectors, you will simply have criminals who figure out other ways to kill people. If you are willing to kill yourself, you really just dont care. We are not talking about rational individuals who are trying to calculate whether they can get away with it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:30 PM) What in the f*** Too much Call of Duty or something? How does this kid get 4 guns and a bulletproof vest in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 This made me sick to my stomach. So f***ing disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:31 PM) As I said previously, unless you plan on installing metal detectors in every single public place, you are never going to stop this type of violence. And even once you have metal detectors, you will simply have criminals who figure out other ways to kill people. If you are willing to kill yourself, you really just dont care. We are not talking about rational individuals who are trying to calculate whether they can get away with it or not. I still want to fight back, I dont want to cower in a corner, I want to unload a clip at that crazy motherf***er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Praying for everyone involved here. Right now, that is all you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:30 PM) Even then it wouldn't be enough. "How hey old man security guard manning the metal detector. POP!" Well, there goes stopping the person at the front door. Exactly, it would give advanced warning so maybe only a few people were killed as opposed to 27. Have you ever been to the Daley Center on the day where they show all the weapons they confiscated the previous year? Its pretty insane to see that people tried to get through metal detectors with half a dozen police around armed. If they are willing to try it with those odds, nothing is really going to completely deter them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:31 PM) Too much Call of Duty or something? How does this kid get 4 guns and a bulletproof vest in the first place? Fairly easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:33 PM) Exactly, it would give advanced warning so maybe only a few people were killed as opposed to 27. Have you ever been to the Daley Center on the day where they show all the weapons they confiscated the previous year? Its pretty insane to see that people tried to get through metal detectors with half a dozen police around armed. If they are willing to try it with those odds, nothing is really going to completely deter them. Yes, and its insane what people try to bring places including airplanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 this is traumatizing 1000 miles away. I can't imagine how those involved move on. I hope they can find meaning in the rest of their lives, and those lives lost I hope they find peace in death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:29 PM) Thats what I dont get, what was your point in shooting kids? Bullied? Lonely? Whatever. Those kids did NOTHING to you. reports are saying the guys' kid went to the school. probably some issue he had with the administrators or other parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:34 PM) this is traumatizing 1000 miles away. I can't imagine how those involved move on. I hope they can find meaning in the rest of their lives, and those lives lost I hope they find peace in death. You never move on. The worst thing about being a parent is the constant worry about losing your child. And the worst thing that could ever happen to a parent is they outlive that child. The worst. I'd sooner die an endless amount of painful deaths than live to see my daughter die peacefully once. Edited December 14, 2012 by Y2HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 12:36 PM) reports are saying the guys' kid went to the school. probably some issue he had with the administrators or other parents. Wow, nothing other than mental illness can draw a line from that to shooting an entire classroom full of kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 10:37 AM) I'd sooner die an endless amount of painful deaths than live to see my daughter die peacefully once. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 This is just awful, hearing about how the death total rose as the SWAT teams found kids shot in multiple rooms that they were clearing is just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joxer_Daly Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Terrible, terrible news. Shocking stuff altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Can you imagine being a parent of a kid on lockdown just waiting to hear if they were one of the victims? f***ing horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I was at the gym with TV's on when the number went from 3 to 27 on CBS. That is first time my skin has gone cold at a news report, that I can remember, since 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 14, 2012 -> 06:41 PM) Wow, nothing other than mental illness can draw a line from that to shooting an entire classroom full of kids. Right, search for motive in this will not bare any fruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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