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QUOTE (mr_genius @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 05:00 PM)
i'm not seeing the conspiracy theory. you are going to need to connect the dots for me

 

I'm not 100% what he's getting at either to be honest but I do find it strange that the fathers of the last 2 mass murders are both linked and both set to testify in a 350 trillion dollar scandal.

 

 

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I swear that if WBC members showed up to a funeral of a family member of mine to protest it, whether it would be because one of those little kids were related to me or if God forbid one of my cousins in Iraq (two were serving there) were killed, they'd have to peel me away from them.

 

These are some sick twisted f***s.

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QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 11:28 PM)
I swear that if WBC members showed up to a funeral of a family member of mine to protest it, whether it would be because one of those little kids were related to me or if God forbid one of my cousins in Iraq (two were serving there) were killed, they'd have to peel me away from them.

 

These are some sick twisted f***s.

 

Because that's what the people of the family need, to see more violence.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 04:42 PM)
Because that's what the people of the family need, to see more violence.

 

 

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repostus_bttn_lng_repost.pngRep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) on Sunday insisted that a tragic massacre at Sandy Forks Elementary School in Connecticut could have been prevented if Principal Dawn Hochsprung had been armed with an M4 carbine, an assault rifle designed by the U.S. military for urban warfare.

 

During an interview on Sunday, Fox News host Chris Wallace asked Gohmert if he still believed that the country would be safer if more people were armed as he had said after a mass shooting at a theater in Aurora, Colorado earlier this year.

 

“Every mass killing of more than three people in recent history has been in a place where guns were prohibited — except for one,” the Texas Republican explained. “They choose this place, they know no one will be armed.”

 

Gohmert became emotional as he continued: “You know, having been and judge and having reviewed photographs of these horrific scenes and knowing that children have these defensive wounds — gunshots through their arms and hands as they try to protect themselves — and hearing the heroic stories the principal, lunging trying to protect — Chris, I wish to God she had had an M4 in her office locked up. So, when she heard gunfire she pulls it out and she didn’t have to lunge heroically with nothing in her hands, but she takes him out, takes his head off before he can kill those precious kids.”

 

Wallace noted that when the Second Amendment was written, weapons like the AR-15 Adam Lanza used to kill 20 children last week — which can shoot up to five rounds in a second — did not exist.

 

“These were created for law enforcement, these were created for the military,” Wallace observed. “Why does the average person — I can understand a hunting rifle, I can understand and handgun — why do they need these weapons of mass destruction?”

 

“Well, for the reason George Washington said: a free people should be an armed people,” Gohmert replied. “It insures against the tyranny of the government if they know that the biggest army is the American people then you don’t have the tyranny that came from King George.”

 

“Once you start drawing the line, when do you stop?” he wondered. “You use your head and you look at the facts.”

 

Watch this video from Fox News’ Fox News Sunday, broadcast Dec. 16, 2012.

 

 

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QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 04:28 PM)
I swear that if WBC members showed up to a funeral of a family member of mine to protest it, whether it would be because one of those little kids were related to me or if God forbid one of my cousins in Iraq (two were serving there) were killed, they'd have to peel me away from them.

 

These are some sick twisted f***s.

 

I know this is one of those responding to absurdity with violence type things, but here we agree. These are vile, evil people and while I know it's an animalistic response, I'll make an exception in their case. These people need to be disposed of, violently.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 05:17 PM)
I know this is one of those responding to absurdity with violence type things, but here we agree. These are vile, evil people and while I know it's an animalistic response, I'll make an exception in their case. These people need to be disposed of, violently.

At least these idiots would know that showing up at funerals, where emotions are raw and people are grieving, would have reprecussions, like them getting their asses kicked. If taunting family members with chants of "those little kids are in hell" isn't reason enough to beat their asses, I don't know what is.

 

Sorry, it just pisses me off that these families who have just experienced the worst possible thing that can happen to a parent, that they have to sit through those assholes adding to their grief. f*** that.

 

I know it's not manly to admit it but I cried on Friday night when I found out about it since I have a 3 year old son in pre school and I don't know if I could ever get through what those poor people have to go through. If there is a God, may He help them get through it.

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http://rt.com/usa/news/gun-control-manchin-assault-234/

 

Senator Manchin (WV), lifelong NRA member, says it's time to reopen gun control debate/discussion.

 

Never mind. I just realized all these topics are probably in the other thread, although I haven't taken the time to read any of it.

 

Please delete.

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QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 05:43 PM)
At least these idiots would know that showing up at funerals, where emotions are raw and people are grieving, would have reprecussions, like them getting their asses kicked. If taunting family members with chants of "those little kids are in hell" isn't reason enough to beat their asses, I don't know what is.

 

Sorry, it just pisses me off that these families who have just experienced the worst possible thing that can happen to a parent, that they have to sit through those assholes adding to their grief. f*** that.

 

I know it's not manly to admit it but I cried on Friday night when I found out about it since I have a 3 year old son in pre school and I don't know if I could ever get through what those poor people have to go through. If there is a God, may He help them get through it.

I can't remember their name, but isn't there a motorcycle group that follows WBC around and attempts to drown them out/shield them from the funeral attendees?

 

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 05:17 PM)
I know this is one of those responding to absurdity with violence type things, but here we agree. These are vile, evil people and while I know it's an animalistic response, I'll make an exception in their case. These people need to be disposed of, violently.

Ya add me to that list. If they showed up at a funeral I was at, I'd end up in jail.

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QUOTE (farmteam @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 06:43 PM)
I can't remember their name, but isn't there a motorcycle group that follows WBC around and attempts to drown them out/shield them from the funeral attendees?

Patriot Riders, or Patriot Guard, something like that.

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QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 08:41 PM)
I will bet there are more assault rifles in the city than there are in "hillbilly" country. It's amazing the sterotypes that come out.

Do you own an assault rifle? Not sure why you're catching feelings here. My point was that assault rifles serve no practical purpose, but please get caught up in the "hillbilly" comment. And just so you're aware I'm not anti-guns in the slightest, I just think people needing to own an assault rifle is ridiculous.

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To the nonbelievers out there, what do you think of Obama being our "pastor in chief" the other night?

Not trying to rub it in, just wondered if you were outraged or think his words quoting scripture and mentioning heaven, etc., were offensive to you.

 

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/17/m...hief/?hpt=hp_t2

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 03:13 AM)
To the nonbelievers out there, what do you think of Obama being our "pastor in chief" the other night?

Not trying to rub it in, just wondered if you were outraged or think his words quoting scripture and mentioning heaven, etc., were offensive to you.

 

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/17/m...hief/?hpt=hp_t2

 

Greg, nobody here is saying that Obama being a religious man or that speech is offensive. Huckabee(and you) is saying that the removal of god from a public school is the reason that this happened. That is absolute bulls***.

 

This isnt a matter of believing and non believing

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 07:11 AM)
Greg, nobody here is saying that Obama being a religious man or that is offensive. Huckabee(and you) is saying that the removal of god from a public school is the reason that this happened. That is absolute bulls***.

 

This isnt a matter of believing and non believing

I started to get into an argument with a friend on Facebook over that Huckabee video. But, I let it drop. I just don't see how anyone can think that if god hadn't been removed from public schools and we relied on the Thou Shall Not Kill comandment, this horrible event would not have happened. We may never know exactly why Lanza did what he did, but I think there's a very good chance he had severe mental/emotional issues. If that's the case, he obviously didn't get (or ask for) the help he needed. Prayer wouldn't have helped.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 05:11 AM)
Greg, nobody here is saying that Obama being a religious man or that speech is offensive. Huckabee(and you) is saying that the removal of god from a public school is the reason that this happened. That is absolute bulls***.

 

This isnt a matter of believing and non believing

 

 

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 05:19 AM)
I started to get into an argument with a friend on Facebook over that Huckabee video. But, I let it drop. I just don't see how anyone can think that if god hadn't been removed from public schools and we relied on the Thou Shall Not Kill comandment, this horrible event would not have happened. We may never know exactly why Lanza did what he did, but I think there's a very good chance he had severe mental/emotional issues. If that's the case, he obviously didn't get (or ask for) the help he needed. Prayer wouldn't have helped.

Greg and Huckabee might have a point if they were advocating that Americans all converted to Buddhism or Jainism but otherwise their point is meaningless.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 03:13 AM)
To the nonbelievers out there, what do you think of Obama being our "pastor in chief" the other night?

Not trying to rub it in, just wondered if you were outraged or think his words quoting scripture and mentioning heaven, etc., were offensive to you.

 

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/17/m...hief/?hpt=hp_t2

Obama said what he felt from his heart, in a time of pain, to try to begin to comfort the families of those that were lost. He could have quoted the Quran and I wouldn't have had a problem with it if it was heartfelt - sadly I would have been in the minority.

 

That's where, I assume, you and I differ. I'm ok with other people believing what they want to enjoy their lives.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 03:13 AM)
To the nonbelievers out there, what do you think of Obama being our "pastor in chief" the other night?

Not trying to rub it in, just wondered if you were outraged or think his words quoting scripture and mentioning heaven, etc., were offensive to you.

 

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/17/m...hief/?hpt=hp_t2

 

Raised Catholic, but not much of a believer in a man made God. I believe that the primer mover represents what people believe is God. If the big bang was that prime mover...than to me, the big bang represents God. I have no problems with people believing in God, being spiritual, or whatever it takes to make them peaceful people. I don't even care if they use it in speeches, or for a way to speak about mourning, etc...so long as you don't use it as an opportunity to recruit or allow it to sway objectivity when science says otherwise. For an example of this, see Carl Everett claiming dinosaurs never existed. If you allow your religious beliefs to blind you to that extent, then I do have a problem with you.

 

I have no problems with Obama's comments. None at all.

 

I find it hilarious that people make fun of Scientology for their "insane beliefs" of an alien race, call it a man made religion, etc...yet most of these same people believe in a ghost floating in the sky from a different man made religion. Let me ask what's more likely, a God like extraterrestrial race, or an invisible benevolent guy floating in the sky, watching on as things this mass shooting took place? Case rested.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Dec 18, 2012 -> 10:29 AM)
Raised Catholic, but not much of a believer in a man made God. I believe that the primer mover represents what people believe is God. If the big bang was that prime mover...than to me, the big bang represents God. I have no problems with people believing in God, being spiritual, or whatever it takes to make them peaceful people. I don't even care if they use it in speeches, or for a way to speak about mourning, etc...so long as you don't use it as an opportunity to recruit or allow it to sway objectivity when science says otherwise. For an example of this, see Carl Everett claiming dinosaurs never existed. If you allow your religious beliefs to blind you to that extent, then I do have a problem with you.

 

I have no problems with Obama's comments. None at all.

 

I find it hilarious that people make fun of Scientology for their "insane beliefs" of an alien race, call it a man made religion, etc...yet most of these same people believe in a ghost floating in the sky from a different man made religion. Let me ask what's more likely, a God like extraterritorial race, or an invisible benevolent guy floating in the sky, watching on as things this mass shooting took place? Case rested.

:lol: :cheers

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