Jake Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:00 PM) Do they pay the same percentage in taxes? No, because they have no money. To get those benefits, of course, most of them paid taxes their entire working lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 It was fun watching a complete meltdown of Republican leadership this evening. How quickly can they/will they replace Boehner? Would replacing him even help us avert the cliff? At this point the Dems need to try to pick off about 25 Republicans and jam this f***er through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:22 PM) It was fun watching a complete meltdown of Republican leadership this evening. How quickly can they/will they replace Boehner? Would replacing him even help us avert the cliff? At this point the Dems need to try to pick off about 25 Republicans and jam this f***er through. Yea. Just like health care. Jam everything up our ass!! YEA! Move to Europe if you don't like this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:23 PM) Yea. Just like health care. Jam everything up our ass!! YEA! Move to Europe if you don't like this country. lol Do you prefer the "cliff?" It would be very effective deficit reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:20 PM) No, because they have no money. To get those benefits, of course, most of them paid taxes their entire working lives. Sorry, that's what I meant. If they paid they should get their money. However, if they pass one of the versions of the state pension reform, I will not get a COLA at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:28 PM) lol Do you prefer the "cliff?" It would be very effective deficit reduction. At this point, it's just about better then any alternative any of these dumbs***s can come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:28 PM) lol Do you prefer the "cliff?" It would be very effective deficit reduction. It may be better than having to make deals with the creditors of our (their) country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:23 PM) Yea. Just like health care. Jam everything up our ass!! YEA! Move to Europe if you don't like this country. "Republican policy" isn't "this country," stop being a dope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:37 PM) At this point, it's just about better then any alternative any of these dumbs***s can come up with. Does it bother you that the cliff is projected to send us into another recession while a more lateral movement will likely maintain growth? Not trolling, just trying to see what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:37 PM) At this point, it's just about better then any alternative any of these dumbs***s can come up with. It'll be another recession, so that'll suck. QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:38 PM) It may be better than having to make deals with the creditors of our (their) country. Our interest rates are incredibly low and actually negative in npv for 10 year bonds. Bond holders are effectively paying the Treasury to lend them money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:23 PM) Yea. Just like health care. Jam everything up our ass!! YEA! And both sides are to blame. I do believe the most vocal "no compromise" segment is the Tea Party. I hope they stick to their principles and hold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 20, 2012 -> 08:37 PM) At this point, it's just about better then any alternative any of these dumbs***s can come up with. 12/20/2012 Kap and I agreed in the 'buster for the second time in a month. f***, those Mayans may have been right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 You might say boehner's "plan b" wasb an abortion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 05:41 AM) You might say boehner's "plan b" wasb an abortion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 I think Boehner may be coming around to the idea of putting a compromise bill up for a vote. You can pass a bill via any majority, not just 100 percent of the majority party. Once we go over the cliff, he loses more leverage and gets closer to losing his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I kinda agree. just go over the stupid cliff. i'm sure any compromise will be the worst of both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 11:28 AM) I kinda agree. just go over the stupid cliff. i'm sure any compromise will be the worst of both sides. haha the one thing that will unite people from both parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 21, 2012 -> 05:41 AM) You might say boehner's "plan b" wasb an abortion your post was probably offensive to some posters here StrangeSox. Apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 For a compromise to work in the best interest of our country, it probably will not be one that either party can call a win. It would be so nice, that instead of headlines saying someone caved in, lost, etc. that we applauded their meager efforts to find a compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 The one thing that people don't realize is that 2012 taxes are going to MAJORLY go up for about 50 million people. There's going to be some pissed off people who have an AMT hit all the way down to about $65,000 AGI. So much for not hitting the "middle class". Notice NO ONE is talking about this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 22, 2012 -> 06:07 PM) The one thing that people don't realize is that 2012 taxes are going to MAJORLY go up for about 50 million people. There's going to be some pissed off people who have an AMT hit all the way down to about $65,000 AGI. So much for not hitting the "middle class". Notice NO ONE is talking about this... Of course not. This is a good thing. You can use the money for upper income tax cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 22, 2012 -> 05:09 PM) Of course not. This is a good thing. You can use the money for upper income tax cuts. Whatever dude. It's not a cut if it stays the same. Quit lying... oh wait, Barackus Droids don't realize that it's all been a big lie from the beginning anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 22, 2012 -> 06:11 PM) Whatever dude. It's not a cut if it stays the same. Quit lying... oh wait, Barackus Droids don't realize that it's all been a big lie from the beginning anyway. Seriously, you're just hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 22, 2012 -> 06:07 PM) The one thing that people don't realize is that 2012 taxes are going to MAJORLY go up for about 50 million people. There's going to be some pissed off people who have an AMT hit all the way down to about $65,000 AGI. So much for not hitting the "middle class". Notice NO ONE is talking about this... I heard rush talking about that or maybe some other GOP boob on 890 AM a few weeks ago. I don't try to listen to it, btw, its on at work. :/ Edited December 23, 2012 by MAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 22, 2012 -> 05:11 PM) Whatever dude. It's not a cut if it stays the same. Quit lying... oh wait, Barackus Droids don't realize that it's all been a big lie from the beginning anyway. Are you saying staying at the same level as before the Bush cuts or after the Bush era cuts? And speaking of Barakus Droids, is that a new phrase that "Dittoheads" are suppose to use or something you made up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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