YASNY Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 30, 2012 -> 07:44 PM) Why are you bringing ethnicity into it? Did he really just ask this question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I never realized that ss2k5 was so racist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionrulZ Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Gonzalez home/road splits shows he loves hitting at Coors. I'd think twice before committing to the $70M he's owed over the next 5 years. $70 million for 5 years for Carlos is not a lot of money, not in today's market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 08:35 AM) $70 million for 5 years for Carlos is not a lot of money, not in today's market. .735 OPS, including .706 last year, away from Colorado in his career. For comparisons sake, Dayan Viciedo put up a .744 OPS last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 30, 2012 -> 07:44 PM) Why are you bringing ethnicity into it? Are you making this personal again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionrulZ Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 .735 OPS, including .706 last year, away from Colorado in his career. For comparisons sake, Dayan Viciedo put up a .744 OPS last year. Carlos had a down year last year; he is a perennial all star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 08:53 AM) Carlos had a down year last year; he is a perennial all star. That .735 OPS number was his career # away from Coors Field. That's not a down year, that's a product of your home ballpark. Away from Coors Field he is Dayan Viciedo for his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 09:35 AM) $70 million for 5 years for Carlos is not a lot of money, not in today's market. You're actually right it's not, but you're ignoring how the contract is structured. Cargo is paid a pittance this year, something like $7 million. His contract explodes and he's paid $20 million for the last year. So if you're trading for him this year, you have to pay the price for a guy who isn't expensive this year and could help the Rockies win a lot of games this year, and could legitimately get better and raise his value even more while being cheap. But if you trade for him now, you have to deal with a $20 million player on the books in a few years. So you have to pay the high talent price to get him now, and the high financial price for him later. It's a double-whammy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Dec 29, 2012 -> 04:05 PM) The $ is serious.... BUT the Cell is the AL version of Coors... I think he will be fine. No it's not. It's not even close. It allows a lot of home runs, but batting average and gap power falls at the Cell. The Ballpark at Arlington is more the AL version of Coors Field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 08:54 AM) That .735 OPS number was his career # away from Coors Field. That's not a down year, that's a product of your home ballpark. Away from Coors Field he is Dayan Viciedo for his career. For a guy who is owed $70M, yes it would be a down year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 08:50 AM) Are you making this personal again? The mods are the reason this board is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 10:53 AM) The mods are the reason this board is what it is. Another personal attack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 31, 2012 -> 12:28 PM) Another personal attack? I think the board is awesome, so I am taking it as a compliment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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