Baron Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal Both #WhiteSox and #RedSox also scouted Javier Vazquez tonight. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 9, 2013 -> 09:04 PM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal Both #WhiteSox and #RedSox also scouted Javier Vazquez tonight. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Please no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 It doesn't surprise me at all. I bet he would be a much better pitcher sans Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 9, 2013 -> 09:28 PM) It doesn't surprise me at all. I bet he would be a much better pitcher sans Ozzie. Javy's success depends on his team's lack of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 10, 2013 -> 04:37 AM) Javy's success depends on his team's lack of it. Having Peavy and Javy on the same team might be "Big Game Choker" overload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 9, 2013 -> 09:39 PM) Having Peavy and Javy on the same team might be "Big Game Choker" overload. Peavy doesn't completely implode. Javy just explodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Philips Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 9, 2013 -> 09:42 PM) Peavy doesn't completely implode. Javy just explodes. he would give whatever team he pitches for 200 innings and win 1/2 of his games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 QUOTE (Bubba Philips @ Jan 9, 2013 -> 09:47 PM) he would give whatever team he pitches for 200 innings and win 1/2 of his games. We already have that in Gavin Floyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Philips Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 9, 2013 -> 09:49 PM) We already have that in Gavin Floyd. we still don't know how soon or what we are going to get out of John Danks maybe the reason why javy is even being considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Scouting for what? To be the waterboy? No thanks. He can go play for Ozzie's team. Edited January 10, 2013 by Whitewashed in '05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Why not? I'd hesitate to give him a guaranteed deal, nothing more than a couple million if I did. Would make trading Gavin less painful and could possibly be really valuable at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 9, 2013 -> 09:04 PM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal Both #WhiteSox and #RedSox also scouted Javier Vazquez tonight. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal HELL NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 No way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Jan 9, 2013 -> 10:12 PM) He can go play for Ozzie's team. FOX? Depending on how much he costs, how competitive they plan to be, and what happens with Floyd, this wouldn't be the worst idea. I do kind of miss hearing people call in to Rongey's show and calling him Vaz-Kwez. It could be worth it just for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I wouldn't mind this at all -- you have to assume it's a spring training invite to compete for a #5 job. We have a ton of depth at #5 but none of it is forcing it's way onto the mound. Now, if he wants 5 million bucks, forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 9, 2013 -> 09:49 PM) We already have that in Gavin Floyd. Who would be dealt in the situation that Vazquez is signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 As a 5th starter, fine. But as anything else, please no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal Both #WhiteSox and #RedSox also scouted Javier Vazquez tonight. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal This is what you get when you create a huge thread about Rick Hahn not doing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 9, 2013 -> 09:28 PM) It doesn't surprise me at all. I bet he would be a much better pitcher sans Ozzie. I agree. I'd take him if it didn't take that much to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionrulZ Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Why not? I'd hesitate to give him a guaranteed deal, nothing more than a couple million if I did. Would make trading Gavin less painful and could possibly be really valuable at the deadline. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 9, 2013 -> 09:49 PM) We already have that in Gavin Floyd. Looking at the numbers a little closer, Floyds career numbers aren't nearly as good as Vazquez's. Floyd has a higher ERA (4.46 to 4.22), higher H/9 (9.0 to 8.3), lower K/9 (7.0 vs 8.0), higher BB/9 (3.0 vs 2.4) and ERA+ (105 vs 100) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 10, 2013 -> 09:54 AM) Looking at the numbers a little closer, Floyds career numbers aren't nearly as good as Vazquez's. Floyd has a higher ERA (4.46 to 4.22), higher H/9 (9.0 to 8.3), lower K/9 (7.0 vs 8.0), higher BB/9 (3.0 vs 2.4) and ERA+ (105 vs 100) Vazquez has had a few good seasons in the NL (one of them real good), Floyd's on-the-surface numbers haven't really looked good since 2008. But Javy's been out of baseball for a whole year, not to mention he's on the wrong side of 35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 10, 2013 -> 11:11 AM) Vazquez has had a few good seasons in the NL (one of them real good), Floyd's on-the-surface numbers haven't really looked good since 2008. But Javy's been out of baseball for a whole year, not to mention he's on the wrong side of 35. If they think Santiago, Axelrod, Castro, Rienzo, or anyone else from the group that should start at Charlotte this year will be ready to be contributors at some point during the year, trading Floyd for nothing saves a good chunk of money and Vazquez could cover a month or two, even with an ERA in the 6's, to give them a little more time and save some innings on pitcher X's arm. They've been in the boat of needing to get something useful back if they traded Floyd because of how their rotation stacks up. Signing a guy like Vazquez could be the insurance that lets them dump Floyd for nothing but cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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