Official 2013-2014 NCAA Football Thread

[Soxbadger]

It can rain any day of the year. It can be windy any day of the year.

 

If we are saying that football is better when there is no weather, then football should be always played indoors.

 

Otherwise I personally think that weather is part of the game and thus you win or lose based on the conditions of that day.

[IlliniKrush]

Why play any game outdoors then?

 

1 loss could be the difference between getting in the 4 team playoff.

Don't know.

 

It can rain any day of the year. It can be windy any day of the year.

 

If we are saying that football is better when there is no weather, then football should be always played indoors.

 

Otherwise I personally think that weather is part of the game and thus you win or lose based on the conditions of that day.

Agreed, the play on the field is better indoors and on good surfaces, aka not Soldier Field s***.

 

Weather's part of the game when you can't control it, sure. Ask yourself why indoor stadiums exist.

[Soxbadger]

I dont know why indoor stadiums exist, I dont like indoor football. I prefer outdoor football because I think weather is part of the sport.

 

Its a personal opinion, I just find it extremely hypocritical that Wisconsin (a team with an outdoor stadium) is saying they want an indoor championship game. They then will complain when other teams dont want to come to Camp Randall to play.

 

You cant have it both ways, which is why I find Alvarez's comments puzzling.

[IlliniKrush]

I dont know why indoor stadiums exist, I dont like indoor football. I prefer outdoor football because I think weather is part of the sport.

 

Its a personal opinion, I just find it extremely hypocritical that Wisconsin (a team with an outdoor stadium) is saying they want an indoor championship game. They then will complain when other teams dont want to come to Camp Randall to play.

 

You cant have it both ways, which is why I find Alvarez's comments puzzling.

Wisconsin also doesn't play a bunch of home games in December. How many absolutely awful weather games have been there? What %? Probably not too high I'm guessing.

 

Plus an average Wisconsin game, while yes, could have an impact on who gets to a championship game, etc, isn't THE championship game. I think that's the whole reason behind what he said.

 

I don't want championship games to have more randomness in there than necessary due to weather. A snow bowl with 40mph wind championship would be stupid when it's something you can control. f***, Illinois could win that game.

[Soxbadger]

In college almost every game is like a playoff game because 1 loss is many times the difference between getting in the ccg or not.

 

They can control the weather on all football games, so I dont see why we only care about 1 game. The National Championship game can be played outside, obviously that is as important as the Big10 CCG.

 

It just seems that football needs to decide if its going to become basketball and only played indoors. If its going to remain outdoors, then all weather conditions should be fair game. Because while you may not like a snow storm game, I find those to be very entertaining. I like to see how teams do in terrible conditions, to me that is the mark of a champion.

 

In your scenario of Illinois winning, they still had to make the game. Its not like 0-11 Illini are playing 11-0 OSU and the snow screwed OSU. But hilariously the week before that could happen, and it would be just part of the game.

[IlliniKrush]

Entertaining fine, but it's not the best way to determine the best team. Controlling the weather allows the athletes to perform at a higher level. It's why fields are manicured like they are.

 

I prefer better football over snow globe on TV. That's how I'd prefer a championship game to be played. Just me though.

[cabiness42]

Regular season games are played on college campuses. It's not reasonable to expect universities to pay to cover their stadiums when they get used <10 times per year and maybe 1-2 of those will have substantial weather issues.

 

Championship games are played at neutral sites, so pick the neutral site that provides the fairest environment for both teams.

[RockRaines]

Entertaining fine, but it's not the best way to determine the best team. Controlling the weather allows the athletes to perform at a higher level. It's why fields are manicured like they are.

 

I prefer better football over snow globe on TV. That's how I'd prefer a championship game to be played. Just me though.

+1. Snow/Rain ball sucks. Cold ass snow ball in the upper midwest in late november is 100% dumb.

[Soxbadger]

+1. Snow/Rain ball sucks. Cold ass snow ball in the upper midwest in late november is 100% dumb.

 

Then all NFL/NCAA games should be indoors.

 

No reason why it cant be like arena league. Bears game in December, gone. Packers game in January, gone.

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, it just seems pretty hypocritical the stance Alvarez is specifically taking, as his team has an outdoor stadium.

[witesoxfan]

Then all NFL/NCAA games should be indoors.

 

No reason why it cant be like arena league. Bears game in December, gone. Packers game in January, gone.

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, it just seems pretty hypocritical the stance Alvarez is specifically taking, as his team has an outdoor stadium.

 

There is more of a spectacle and allure to championship games and ignoring that and comparing the first game or a conference road game to that is silly.

 

You have the two best teams from fill in the blank and, personally, I want to see the talent determine the better team that day. I don't want to see weather become such a determining factor that it outweighs the talent. It's quite apparent I'm not alone.

[Soxbadger]

Witesoxfan,

 

Im not ignoring the allure of a championship game.

 

Im saying the following:

 

1) Championship games in football occur out doors, including the National Championship game and NFL playoff games

 

2) That weather, whether it is warm or cold, can impact a game.

 

3) And that if we believe that weather impacting a game is negative, we should remove all weather from a game.

 

I personally like football and the elements. But I can see why some people would want football indoors. I just believe that if you want it indoors, all games should be indoors, not just a random few.

 

The NFL is moving the exact opposite direction, in that they will have a Super Bowl in NY outdoors.

[IlliniKrush]

Witesoxfan,

 

Im not ignoring the allure of a championship game.

 

Im saying the following:

1) Championship games in football occur out doors, including the National Championship game and NFL playoff games

 

2) That weather, whether it is warm or cold, can impact a game.

 

3) And that if we believe that weather impacting a game is negative, we should remove all weather from a game.

 

I personally like football and the elements. But I can see why some people would want football indoors. I just believe that if you want it indoors, all games should be indoors, not just a random few.

 

The NFL is moving the exact opposite direction, in that they will have a Super Bowl in NY outdoors.

And national championships and super bowls are in warm weather climates or domes, do you think that's a coincidence?

 

Most people think the NY idea is ridiculous. They better pray the weather isn't awful. Who wants a super bowl in a snow storm? Well besides you of course.

 

This could be the first and last time it happens, we'll see.

 

You want to put everything indoors, go ahead, but you need new stadiums and more money. But when you can control the weather for such a meaningful game, you absolutely should.

[RockRaines]

Then all NFL/NCAA games should be indoors.

 

No reason why it cant be like arena league. Bears game in December, gone. Packers game in January, gone.

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, it just seems pretty hypocritical the stance Alvarez is specifically taking, as his team has an outdoor stadium.

I agree cold weather games should be indoors. The bears should have built a retractable roof stadium, the Vikings new stadium is a dome, the Lions is a dome. I dont go to those games, I sit in a warm bar or my couch.

[RockRaines]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2013/ 05/15/big-ten-record-revenue/2164593/

Boosted by network, Big Ten reigns supreme in cash

The Big Ten Conference's financial supremacy was on display again Wednesday when the league's latest federal tax return reported record revenue and the largest single-year compensation figure ever for a conference commissioner.

The return also showed the league-owned Big Ten Network has progressed from start-up to overall profitability in less than five years.

The Big Ten's return showed the conference with more than $315 million in revenue for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2012.

The Big Ten, which increased its annual revenue by more than $50 million in 2012, had total revenue that was $42 million more than the Southeastern Conference reported for a fiscal year ending Aug. 31, 2012.

The tax return, provided by the Big Ten Conference in response to a request from USA TODAY Sports, showed commissioner Jim Delany being credited with more than $2.8 million in compensation for the 2011 calendar year. (IRS rules require an individual's compensation to be reported based on a calendar year; an organization's revenue and expense data are reported by fiscal year.)

Delany's 2011 compensation -- which included a $1 million payment that deputy commissioner and treasurer Brad Traviolia described as a deferred payment and retention bonus – was more than $1.2 million above what the SEC reported paying commissioner Mike Slive for the same period. Slive's nearly $1.6 million for 2011 included a $550,000 bonus.

Slive is likely the only other commissioner to have topped $2 million in earnings for one year. He received more than $2.1 million in 2008, including a $1 million bonus.

Pacific-12 commissioner Larry Scott made nearly $1.9 million in salary in bonuses in 2010. That conference has not yet released its latest tax return.

The Big Ten's schools -- other than Nebraska, which was still not getting an equal share of revenues -- each received around $24.7 million from the conference in 2012.

To put that in perspective, just this one portion of Big Ten schools' athletics revenue in 2012 was greater than the total athletics revenue of more than half of the NCAA Division I public schools, according to USA Today Sports' recent analysis of the figures schools reported to the NCAA.

Part of the Big Ten's revenue increase came from the first annual profit share generated by the Big Ten Network, which the league owns almost equally with Fox. The conference's tax return shows the activation of a holding corporation whose purpose is to receive taxable revenue generated by the network, and that the conference netted about $11 million in 2012.

This means that during fiscal 2012, the conference and Fox finished covering the venture's start-up costs and began making money from the network, which launched in August 2007 as the first national conference-owned TV network geared around one conference. The network's profits seem almost certain to rise in the future. The conference also receives an annual rights fee from the network, Traviolia said.

The network's success is undoubtedly just part of the reason Delany is so highly compensated.

The Big Ten's new tax return shows the commissioner with:

$1,335,178 in base compensation, which is 42% more than the $939,972 he received in 2010.

The $1 million deferred/retention payment, $600,000 of which was reported as deferred but unpaid income on prior year's returns.

$435,000 in new deferred compensation that he accrued but was not paid in 2011.

$29,000 in non-taxable benefits.

[Jenksismyhero]

People around college football don't like Delany, but he's been amazing for the Big Ten and the schools.

Edited May 16, 2013 by Jenksismybitch

[RockRaines]

The 2014 Big Ten football schedule is f***ing weird.

[zenryan]

The 2014 Big Ten football schedule is f***ing weird.

 

 

 

seeing a couple teams with a 3 week stretch of BYE,game,BYE is odd.

[cabiness42]

seeing a couple teams with a 3 week stretch of BYE,game,BYE is odd.

 

I haven't seen the 2014 schedule, but is the Big Ten moving to an SEC model? The SEC makes sure its top teams get byes before their toughest games to increase the odds they will go undefeated.

[RockRaines]

I haven't seen the 2014 schedule, but is the Big Ten moving to an SEC model? The SEC makes sure its top teams get byes before their toughest games to increase the odds they will go undefeated.

no.

[Heads22]

Iowa has the easiest schedule in the f***ing world. Their crossover opponents are Indiana and Maryland.

[RockRaines]

Iowa has the easiest schedule in the f***ing world. Their crossover opponents are Indiana and Maryland.

Maryland's schedule is murder.

[fathom]

Rumor that Golson got kicked out of ND is all over twitter

[Kyyle23]

Rumor that Golson got kicked out of ND is all over twitter

 

The school confirmed he is no longer enrolled, due to privacy laws they will not say why

[cabiness42]

Rumor that Golson got kicked out of ND is all over twitter

 

He'll be at an SEC school within a week.

[nitetrain8601]

Apparently he got kicked out for plagarizing one of his final papers. ND is screwed. But you Gunner wishes he didn't transfer out.