IlliniKrush Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 There's just no tolerance for...........plagarizing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 25, 2013 -> 09:39 PM) Rumor that Golson got kicked out of ND is all over twitter Go get 'em Tim Beckman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 25, 2013 -> 10:23 PM) Go get 'em Tim Beckman No chance Beckman can get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Gunner gone, Golson gone. I guess it's back to good 'ole Tommy Rees. Bleh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Gunner gone, Golson gone. I guess it's back to good 'ole Tommy Rees. Bleh. Hendrix will put in some strong competition for the job. And no, there is no tolerance for academic cheating. You need to go to an SEC school or a Florida school if that's how you roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) I get that plagiarism is bad but it's funny that this is where the university draws the line considering all the bulls*** that has went on there in recent years. Edited May 26, 2013 by Rowand44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Apparently Kiel could still come back and play for ND if he wanted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I get that plagiarism is bad but it's funny that this is where the university draws the line considering all the bulls*** that has went on there in recent years. The other things that have happened make ND look bad, but tolerating academic cheating actually devalues the diploma for everybody else. As much we want to see our team win, we need that degree to have the value that we paid (a lot) for. There would be massive outrage from alumni if it was ever found out that the university let this slide, even for a player as vital as Golson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 26, 2013 -> 08:00 AM) I get that plagiarism is bad but it's funny that this is where the university draws the line considering all the bulls*** that has went on there in recent years. That's exactly how I feel about it. Strange priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 25, 2013 -> 11:09 PM) No chance Beckman can get him. Yelling loudly and chewing dip isn't a solid recruiting tactic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 @JJStankevitz 2h No surprise here. RT @schadjoe: Gunner Kiel says he is committed to Cincinnati. ND return not an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 26, 2013 -> 11:51 AM) @JJStankevitz 2h No surprise here. RT @schadjoe: Gunner Kiel says he is committed to Cincinnati. ND return not an option. He was never going back to South Bend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) Heard Davaris Daniels leaving Irish because of grades and other off field problems. Yikes Guy who told me is a reporter but would still wait for bigger confirmation. Edited May 27, 2013 by Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SexiAlexei Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 So I decided to watch Costas tonight after the Hawks game... Is this Paterno stuff really still going on? I wish only the worst for the Paterno family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 QUOTE (Brian @ May 27, 2013 -> 08:51 PM) Heard Davaris Daniels leaving Icheatinuse of grades and other off field problems. Yikes Guy who told me is a reporter but would still wait for bigger confirmation. The morning before the Golson stuff broke I was told Golson and Daniels were off the team due to a cheating scandal. Im guessing he is indeed gone then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 30, 2013 -> 08:28 AM) The morning before the Golson stuff broke I was told Golson and Daniels were off the team due to a cheating scandal. Im guessing he is indeed gone then. Golston is now only "suspended" until the spring at which time he'll be reinstated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 30, 2013 -> 09:58 AM) Golston is now only "suspended" until the spring at which time he'll be reinstated. You outraged Hickory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Heard Davaris Daniels leaving Irish because of grades and other off field problems. Yikes Guy who told me is a reporter but would still wait for bigger confirmation. Background: ND's code of academic conduct in the area of academic cheating/fraud calls for automatic failure in the class for the first offense and dismissal from the university with the possibility of being re-admitted after one semester for the second offense. There is no public knowledge of the first offense because student grades and conduct issues are protected due to privacy issues. Now here's the Golson/Daniels story as I've heard it: Golson had a previous offense and as a result failed a class. Then during the spring semester, Daniels asked to "look at" a paper Golson had written for a class. Daniels then copied the paper word for word and turned it in as his own. Golson supposedly didn't know Daniels had done this but it doesn't really matter and it counts as an offense for both of them. Now this is Golson's second offense so he is out of school for at least semester but it's Daniels' first offense so as long as failing that one class doesn't pull his overall GPA below an eligible level, he will still be able to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 02:53 PM) Background: ND's code of academic conduct in the area of academic cheating/fraud calls for automatic failure in the class for the first offense and dismissal from the university with the possibility of being re-admitted after one semester for the second offense. There is no public knowledge of the first offense because student grades and conduct issues are protected due to privacy issues. Now here's the Golson/Daniels story as I've heard it: Golson had a previous offense and as a result failed a class. Then during the spring semester, Daniels asked to "look at" a paper Golson had written for a class. Daniels then copied the paper word for word and turned it in as his own. Golson supposedly didn't know Daniels had done this but it doesn't really matter and it counts as an offense for both of them. Now this is Golson's second offense so he is out of school for at least semester but it's Daniels' first offense so as long as failing that one class doesn't pull his overall GPA below an eligible level, he will still be able to play. What a dick move. Kelly should boot him off the team just for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 What a dick move. Kelly should boot him off the team just for that. Well, I think the "other off field problems" that somebody else referred to are his teammates giving him a very hard time over this. The situation may work itself out without Kelly having to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I'm calling BS on the Golson/Daniels paper angle. These kids arent that stupid. Anyone who has given a paper to a friend to "look at" knows exactly whats going to happen. Maybe you dont expect the entire thing to be copied (if that part is even true) but you do know that your paper is about to get plagiarised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 QUOTE (zenryan @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 06:32 PM) I'm calling BS on the Golson/Daniels paper angle. These kids arent that stupid. Anyone who has given a paper to a friend to "look at" knows exactly whats going to happen. Maybe you dont expect the entire thing to be copied (if that part is even true) but you do know that your paper is about to get plagiarised. Depends on the friend, I had plenty I wouldn't have mind giving them a copy so they could get ideas or whatever from mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 QUOTE (zenryan @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 06:32 PM) I'm calling BS on the Golson/Daniels paper angle. These kids arent that stupid. Anyone who has given a paper to a friend to "look at" knows exactly whats going to happen. Maybe you dont expect the entire thing to be copied (if that part is even true) but you do know that your paper is about to get plagiarised. If I was the starting QB whom the school wants to let play for them again that would be exactly my story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 08:03 PM) If I was the starting QB whom the school wants to let play for them again that would be exactly my story. I dont blame for them for saying that's what happened but dont expect me to buy that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I'm calling BS on the Golson/Daniels paper angle. These kids arent that stupid. Anyone who has given a paper to a friend to "look at" knows exactly whats going to happen. Maybe you dont expect the entire thing to be copied (if that part is even true) but you do know that your paper is about to get plagiarised. Doesn't really matter what he though Daniels was going to do--it's irresponsible to give him your paper when you already have a strike against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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