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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 7, 2013 -> 11:22 AM)
I never wasnt. Why cant OSU players sell their own memorabilia? It makes no sense.

 

I can see both sides.

 

If you let players sell their own memorabilia, then you will have big boosters paying players through memorabilia "sales". I'm not naive enough to think payments don't already happen, but if you make it legal, then suddenly Oregon, Oklahoma State, Arkansas etc are going to line up top 10 classes every single season.

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QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Aug 7, 2013 -> 11:45 AM)
I can see both sides.

 

If you let players sell their own memorabilia, then you will have big boosters paying players through memorabilia "sales". I'm not naive enough to think payments don't already happen, but if you make it legal, then suddenly Oregon, Oklahoma State, Arkansas etc are going to line up top 10 classes every single season.

Thats exactly what's been going on in these programs for years. Under Tressel there was an open door policy in the locker room/equipment room as well where players can grab extra shoes etc and unload them. Its rampant across college football.

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Well, the NCAA could regulate it, and say you can sell memorabilia only through x vendors. They could take a premium and screw over the college athletes still, but hey, at least the kids could get paid.

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I can see both sides.

 

If you let players sell their own memorabilia, then you will have big boosters paying players through memorabilia "sales". I'm not naive enough to think payments don't already happen, but if you make it legal, then suddenly Oregon, Oklahoma State, Arkansas etc are going to line up top 10 classes every single season.

 

This is exactly why the rules are the way they are. If you allow players any kind of income like this, you are opening the door for unlimited money funneled from donors to players. The only change the NCAA can really consider making is a stipend that is fixed and given to every player in FBS. In fact, mandating a stipend for FBS players might cause a nice side benefit in preventing all these small-time FCS schools from moving up to FBS if they know it's going to cost them a lot more.

 

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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 08:46 AM)
This is exactly why the rules are the way they are. If you allow players any kind of income like this, you are opening the door for unlimited money funneled from donors to players. The only change the NCAA can really consider making is a stipend that is fixed and given to every player in FBS. In fact, mandating a stipend for FBS players might cause a nice side benefit in preventing all these small-time FCS schools from moving up to FBS if they know it's going to cost them a lot more.

 

A stipend wouldn't stop the top guys from trying to make more money in other ways. Hell, they already get a stipend right now - their free education, room and board, food, equipment, etc.

 

 

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 09:00 AM)
Dennis Dodd skewered Pryor and his teammates for their actions a few years back. He just issued a formal apology

 

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/b...-future-at-risk

 

To save people the trouble of having to read that article, let me quickly paraphrase it in one sentence.

 

"My apology to the poor OSU players who just needed money, but screw Johnny Manziel, that rich, spoiled, arrogant piece of s***."

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 09:22 AM)
To save people the trouble of having to read that article, let me quickly paraphrase it in one sentence.

 

"My apology to the poor OSU players who just needed money, but screw Johnny Manziel, that rich, spoiled, arrogant piece of s***."

 

Lol, yep.

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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 08:46 AM)
This is exactly why the rules are the way they are. If you allow players any kind of income like this, you are opening the door for unlimited money funneled from donors to players. The only change the NCAA can really consider making is a stipend that is fixed and given to every player in FBS. In fact, mandating a stipend for FBS players might cause a nice side benefit in preventing all these small-time FCS schools from moving up to FBS if they know it's going to cost them a lot more.

 

Slippery slope arguments are the worst.

 

I'm a pretty big homer for the NCAA, but it's the height of stupidity that, to use an example I heard on the radio yesterday, Jeremy Bloom couldn't get endorsements as a professional skiier, but Colorado could sell jerseys with his number on them.

 

Let the kids do car commercials, let them get endorsements with Nike, Addidas, whoever. And if you are worried that it will provide additional ammo to schools with boosters with big pockets, put a cap on the total amount of income the kids can get from the endorsements ($150k or something). It's stupid to say that a kid can't profit off of his own likeness while at the same time saying that the schools can sell their jerseys without the names on them.

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Yeah, where? I'm part of a select Miami board with some people in the know and the only talk is how Miami may finally hear from the NCAA in the next couple of days.

 

2 bowl bans and sitting out the ACC title game has already been lost. Anything more than scholarships losses is entering Penn St territory.

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Miami has been keeping most of their practices closed this fall. Then they decided to break from training camp a day early before prepping for Florida Atlantic next week. Of course breaking a day earlier created another set of message board/twitter speculation.

 

This looks like people just reading too much into something.

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 21, 2013 -> 10:25 PM)
Yeah thats why I posted here because I figured youd have much better information than random internet posters.

 

 

 

I dont think there is any info out there now. I mean its been three years since the investigation started and a couple of months since the hearing. At first it was suppose to be late July, then mid August, now people saying Friday or Monday. Someone will guess right sooner or later.

 

It'll be real funny if Manziel gets cleared before the Miami situation is addressed. But I cant imagine the NCAA really letting this continue past the opening weekend.

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