IlliniKrush Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 7, 2013 -> 11:15 PM) Thought the broadcast of that game was pretty rotten. They kept acting as though the Stanford defense was dominating the game and kept circling the time of possession, etc. Oregon turned the ball over on fumbles that are entirely random football plays, and their defense refused to sell out against the run until the 4th quarter. I get that Stanford manhandled Oregon in the running game, but Oregon had enough success on offense to win this game, they just kept turning the ball over. Oregon punted what, 3 times? Only when Oregon put the outcome in doubt briefly did these idiots begin backpeddaling. And this nonsense Jessie Palmer is using trying to discount Stanford's loss to Utah by claiming they didn't "play Stanford football." Then the comments about DeAnthony Thomas are pretty rough as well. They only had 2 turnovers, right? Yes, but Stanford punted only once. 14/21 on 3rd downs is insane. Stanford outplayed them, this just wasn't the impressive Oregon offense that many thought they'd see. Stanford had the Oregon offense completely out of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Yeah, I don't think the broadcast was off. Oregon was dominated in every facet of the game for 50+ minutes. Got a couple lucky breaks to get back in it, which you could argue cancel out the lucky breaks against them earlier that you referenced. I said it while I was watching the game and I still think it, but why doesn't Oregon kick that early field goal? Always try to score the first points on the road. Gives you some confidence, a lead, gives the home team a chance to doubt itself. In the middle of the game I might go for it there, but situationally I think that was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 7, 2013 -> 11:20 PM) Everybody is so worried about the rankings. How many undefeated teams do you really think will be left? It's the first week of November. Just like last year. So many teams were gonna end up undefeated, except for Notre Dame who everyone was convinced would lose a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Nov 7, 2013 -> 09:31 PM) They only had 2 turnovers, right? Yes, but Stanford punted only once. 14/21 on 3rd downs is insane. Stanford outplayed them, this just wasn't the impressive Oregon offense that many thought they'd see. Stanford had the Oregon offense completely out of sorts. I'm not arguing that Oregon was the better team. Just that the reason Stanford dominated the game was because of Oregon's failure to get off the field on defense, not so much because of Oregon's offense getting shut down by Stanford's defense, which was much more the case last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (danman31 @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 12:13 AM) Yeah, I don't think the broadcast was off. Oregon was dominated in every facet of the game for 50+ minutes. Got a couple lucky breaks to get back in it, which you could argue cancel out the lucky breaks against them earlier that you referenced. I said it while I was watching the game and I still think it, but why doesn't Oregon kick that early field goal? Always try to score the first points on the road. Gives you some confidence, a lead, gives the home team a chance to doubt itself. In the middle of the game I might go for it there, but situationally I think that was bad. They ran 58 plays on offense for 312 yards...they fumbled the ball in the Stanford red zone twice, once on the five. That's not domination so much randomness. The lack of plays and possession time is more attributable to the Stanford offense than the Stanford defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 01:44 PM) They ran 58 plays on offense for 312 yards...they fumbled the ball in the Stanford red zone twice, once on the five. That's not domination so much randomness. The lack of plays and possession time is more attributable to the Stanford offense than the Stanford defense. Adding to that - it was an away game against a top 5 team. I simultaneously feel bad and feel amused about this loss. When Oregon loses I do think they take it on the chin more than they should from the media. Part of that is Oregon's popularity with non-college football fans. I feel like way too often I hear, ya but that team couldn't hang with OREGON's offense. And truth is they probably could. So there is a backlash to bandwagon fans that don't even really watch much college football. But I feel bad, because I think Oregon gets more s*** when they can't pull off their undefeated seasons because they aren't an old guard team. You see that with Jessie Palmer's dumbass comments. Look at Oklahoma. That team has been so inflated last 3 years just because it's Oklahoma (and probably b/c recruiting rankings). They can lose a game to Baylor and it doesn't say much about them. If Baylor lost? Baylor can't hang with the big boys. Just annoying, but most of the CFB media came from the big programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Nov 7, 2013 -> 10:09 AM) I know. I don't ever recall looking forward to a Thursday night of college football this much. I think Game 2 might be a blowout, though. Nailed another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 07:14 AM) Nailed another one. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 09:06 AM) Adding to that - it was an away game against a top 5 team. I simultaneously feel bad and feel amused about this loss. When Oregon loses I do think they take it on the chin more than they should from the media. Part of that is Oregon's popularity with non-college football fans. I feel like way too often I hear, ya but that team couldn't hang with OREGON's offense. And truth is they probably could. So there is a backlash to bandwagon fans that don't even really watch much college football. But I feel bad, because I think Oregon gets more s*** when they can't pull off their undefeated seasons because they aren't an old guard team. You see that with Jessie Palmer's dumbass comments. Look at Oklahoma. That team has been so inflated last 3 years just because it's Oklahoma (and probably b/c recruiting rankings). They can lose a game to Baylor and it doesn't say much about them. If Baylor lost? Baylor can't hang with the big boys. Just annoying, but most of the CFB media came from the big programs. I dont think "Old Guard" has anything to do with it. Its the fact most of the media you are watching is ESPN, and ESPN is paid to hype up the SEC since they own their media rights. Second, Oregon was the little darling years ago where everyone was pulling for them. Now since they've laid several eggs on the big stage, folks dont want them there anymore. Thats what happens in college sports. People dont want Ohio State, Oregon, or Chokelahoma anywhere near important championship games. FSU hasnt been relevant in 13 years which is why people are pulling for them now. If they get blown out by Bama in the BCS championship game, you'll see the media and public turn on them. On Baylor. Yes, Baylor has been a bottom feeder for pretty much its entire history of football, they won 4 of their 7 conference titles before 1925. People have a right to be skeptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 All I know is they were making fun of Oregon for saying they'd score 40 on Stanford, specifically DeAnthony Thomas...I thought that was pretty inappropriate for them to be saying on-air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 09:45 AM) All I know is they were making fun of Oregon for saying they'd score 40 on Stanford, specifically DeAnthony Thomas...I thought that was pretty inappropriate for them to be saying on-air. That broadcast team was horrible. Oregon wasnt smart for having "we want bama" shirts on but the ESPN talking heads went out and said outrageous things during and after the game last night. Most of those commentators couldnt name more than 2 players on any of the teams. The radio team was saying Thomas was a guy they wouldnt want on their team because he was smiling instead of crying. It made no sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 07:51 AM) That broadcast team was horrible. Oregon wasnt smart for having "we want bama" shirts on but the ESPN talking heads went out and said outrageous things during and after the game last night. Most of those commentators couldnt name more than 2 players on any of the teams. The radio team was saying Thomas was a guy they wouldnt want on their team because he was smiling instead of crying. It made no sense to me. The tv guys alluded to that too. "Why are you smiling when it's 23-0? What is there to smile about???" Look, I think Oregon came off as entitled last night too. It wasn't a particularly proud night to be a Ducks fan...but yeah, I just thought these guys were saying some uncalled for s***... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 04:45 PM) All I know is they were making fun of Oregon for saying they'd score 40 on Stanford, specifically DeAnthony Thomas...I thought that was pretty inappropriate for them to be saying on-air. Brian Griese called Mizzou-Tennessee and consistently was talking trash on Mizzou's kicker. The dude is a college kicker who missed a kick, lay the f*** off. He was already getting killed by the awful mizzou fan contingent of which consists of 80% of student body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 05:00 PM) The tv guys alluded to that too. "Why are you smiling when it's 23-0? What is there to smile about???" Look, I think Oregon came off as entitled last night too. It wasn't a particularly proud night to be a Ducks fan...but yeah, I just thought these guys were saying some uncalled for s***... People having a bad day at work must look miserable the entire time or else we know they don't take their job seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 10:02 AM) People having a bad day at work must look miserable the entire time or else we know they don't take their job seriously. WHY IS JAY CUTLER WALKING AROUND HE LOOKS NORMAL HE QUIT ON THE 2011 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME START CALEB HANIE FOREVS/meathead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 10:00 AM) The tv guys alluded to that too. "Why are you smiling when it's 23-0? What is there to smile about???" Look, I think Oregon came off as entitled last night too. It wasn't a particularly proud night to be a Ducks fan...but yeah, I just thought these guys were saying some uncalled for s***... That just grinds my gears everytime I hear something like that. People smile & laugh occasionally at funerals too. They must be happy that the person's dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Cool story. http://www.thestarpress.com/article/201311...chigan-football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 05:09 PM) That just grinds my gears everytime I hear something like that. People smile & laugh occasionally at funerals too. They must be happy that the person's dead! Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 10:10 AM) Cool story. http://www.thestarpress.com/article/201311...chigan-football Nice guy. 5k of that 5 million dollar salary isnt a bad start.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 These pundits should ignore the little number next to a teams name earlier than Nov. On the radio they are talking about how FSU destroyed the #7 team. Well, wasnt that Clemson team a bit overrated? Stanford is so great they just punked the #3 team in the land, they could beat anybody!!! Yeah well any of the top 15 teams can beat anybody, its sports. When you have a loss to a 4-4 Utah team, you dont deserve national title consideration. I would be shocked if there were more than 2 undefeated teams left at the end of the year, then you can have your sweet debate how 2 losses in the SEC is better than undefeated in every other conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 These pundits should ignore the little number next to a teams name earlier than Nov. On the radio they are talking about how FSU destroyed the #7 team. Well, wasnt that Clemson team a bit overrated? Stanford is so great they just punked the #3 team in the land, they could beat anybody!!! Yeah well any of the top 15 teams can beat anybody, its sports. When you have a loss to a 4-4 Utah team, you dont deserve national title consideration. I would be shocked if there were more than 2 undefeated teams left at the end of the year, then you can have your sweet debate how 2 losses in the SEC is better than undefeated in every other conference. As far as I'm concerned, any team that wears white jerseys and yellow pants deserves to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 That clemson team may not be top ten, but going into Clemson when they are very much confident and thinking they have a national title team, and not just beating them but obliterating them was the best win that could possibly happen this year. I think it's helpful to think of teams where they were ranked at the time. Sometimes they were really good wins, and that team just got killed by injuries rest of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 10:30 AM) That clemson team may not be top ten, but going into Clemson when they are very much confident and thinking they have a national title team, and not just beating them but obliterating them was the best win that could possibly happen this year. I think it's helpful to think of teams where they were ranked at the time. Sometimes they were really good wins, and that team just got killed by injuries rest of year. Northwestern was ranked and thought they were a contender too. Rankings have no relevance until Nov. Too much human interaction in the polls as well. Check out the AP polls and where each voter has teams ranked. Half of them have personal agendas they vote on each and every week. I'm glad the playoff system starts soon because this system is horrendous. College football is the only sport where not every team in the country has a chance to win a title. Think about that. Edited November 8, 2013 by RockRaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 05:32 PM) Northwestern was ranked and thought they were a contender too. Rankings have no relevance until Nov. ...and has since been dealing with a lot of injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 10:35 AM) ...and has since been dealing with a lot of injuries. Like every team in the country. Show me one top 5 team that hasnt lost a serious impact player at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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