ZionrulZ Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Considering we have a terrible start catcher, you think we might look for a decent backup. But no... Agreed. Could've had Kottaras, Olivo, Shoppach...but, nope, they signed with other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Maybe we sould sign Ramon Castro again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionrulZ Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Maybe we sould sign Ramon Castro again.... Is Ron Hassey still around? Sandy Alomar Jr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 03:31 PM) Agreed. Could've had Kottaras, Olivo, Shoppach...but, nope, they signed with other teams. The White Sox could not have had Kottaras. He was claimed on waivers by a team with a worse record than the White Sox who therefore had priority. It was fully impossible for the White Sox to get him. For all we know, they may have put a claim in on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 02:24 PM) Considering we have a terrible start catcher, you think we might look for a decent backup. But no... We don't know that Flowers will be terrible. I for one doubt he'll be that bad. His defense is good, he calls a good game, and he has a lot of power. If he can do an okay job at hitting for average, he'll be fine. However, I am concerned about the lack of a decent back-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 02:24 PM) Considering we have a terrible start catcher I've seen you post this twice... but never seen you say why you think this is the case. He's been projected by Bill James to put up a better OPS than AJP, his minor league career shows some promise, and his defense is already better than AJ's without much doubt. So where are you getting this? I mean, he might be terrible... or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 02:38 PM) The White Sox could not have had Kottaras. He was claimed on waivers by a team with a worse record than the White Sox who therefore had priority. It was fully impossible for the White Sox to get him. For all we know, they may have put a claim in on him. If they really wanted him, they might have been able to trade for him. I read defensively he was similar to the 45 year old Carlton Fisk. Normally, teams want a defensive guy as the back up. Maybe they just didn't want him. I do think back up catcher will be a bigger role than it's been for a while. Maybe one of these guys will surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 03:54 PM) If they really wanted him, they might have been able to trade for him. I read defensively he was similar to the 45 year old Carlton Fisk. Normally, teams want a defensive guy as the back up. Maybe they just didn't want him. I do think back up catcher will be a bigger role than it's been for a while. Maybe one of these guys will surprise. More likely is the A's jumped at the Jaso deal and decided they weren't going to tell all 30 teams he was available before putting him on waivers. Otherwise, they'd have been holding up that 3-way deal, which could of course have endangered it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 02:57 PM) More likely is the A's jumped at the Jaso deal and decided they weren't going to tell all 30 teams he was available before putting him on waivers. Otherwise, they'd have been holding up that 3-way deal, which could of course have endangered it. He was DFA'd which took him off the roster and gave Oakland 10 days to decide what to do with him. He was claimed 8 or 9 days after he was DFA'd, so he wasn't waived until about a week after the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 04:03 PM) He was DFA'd which took him off the roster and gave Oakland 10 days to decide what to do with him. He was claimed 8 or 9 days after he was DFA'd, so he wasn't waived until about a week after the trade. That's not how it works. If he's put on waivers, all 30 teams have the right to claim him. The highest priority team to claim him wins the claim. The fact that it was nearly 10 days means most likely that they awarded the claim win to the highest priority team at the end of the waiting period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 03:05 PM) That's not how it works. If he's put on waivers, all 30 teams have the right to claim him. The highest priority team to claim him wins the claim. The fact that it was nearly 10 days means most likely that they awarded the claim win to the highest priority team at the end of the waiting period. He wasn't waived right away after he was DFA'd the day of the trade. They still could have traded him. If the Sox really wanted him, they could have had him, but would have had to give Oakland something they would want other than the waiver money. The waiver period is only a couple of days. They have a week to put him on waivers once he's DFA'd if he hasn't been released or traded or returned to the 40 man. Edited February 1, 2013 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 04:11 PM) He wasn't waived right away after he was DFA'd the day of the trade. They still could have traded him. If the Sox really wanted him, they could have had him, but would have had to give Oakland something they would want other than the waiver money. The waiver period is only a couple of days. They have a week to put him on waivers once he's DFA'd if he hasn't been released or traded or returned to the 40 man. The A's had no rights to him. Their 40 man roster is at 40 counting Jaso. In order to complete that trade, they had to remove all of their rights to Kottaras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 03:15 PM) The A's had no rights to him. Their 40 man roster is at 40 counting Jaso. In order to complete that trade, they had to remove all of their rights to Kottaras. Designated for assignment is a contractual term used in Major League Baseball. A player who is designated for assignment is immediately removed from the team's 40-man roster, after which the team must either:[1] return the player to the 40-man roster within 10 days from the date of designation, or make one of the following contractual moves: Place the player on waivers (which can only be done within the first 7 days of the 10-day period) Trade the player Release the player When the trade happened he was immediately DFA'd. Not placed on waivers. The waiver period is 2 business days. If they had no right to him and had to waive him immediately, he would have been claimed a week earlier. Edited February 1, 2013 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 QUOTE (Lamar Johnson 23 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 02:31 PM) Agreed. Could've had Kottaras, Olivo, Shoppach...but, nope, they signed with other teams. Kottaras was claimed at a higher priority than us. We could not have "had" him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 03:30 PM) Kottaras was claimed at a higher priority than us. We could not have "had" him. Not off waivers. He was available via trade or sale. He is supposed to be brutal defensively. Hahn probably likes what he has as back ups anyway. Edited February 2, 2013 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionrulZ Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 If Rick Hahn is reading this, my son is a catcher, pretty good defensively, good hitter, (probably not against major league pitching though!). He's only 11, but he will play for the minimum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteward Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I don't think the left-handed bat argument has any merit here. Gimenez is a switch hitter, which by that argument would make him the better option. I think Anderson will prove to be a better hitter against RH pitching than Gimmy or Tyler. I am hoping that Bryan Anderson makes the team because of his bat but it all depends on his defense. It doesn't matter what he hits if he can't handle the position defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Did Lamar really get banned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Feb 8, 2013 -> 12:24 PM) Did Lamar really get banned? Please god no!!!!1 The site will never survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I know that Gimenez has looked pretty decent this spring and should fine in a backup role. However, does anyone think the Sox will have or should have interest in Rod Barajas or Ramon Hernandez who both will be released in the coming days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 26, 2013 -> 09:59 AM) I know that Gimenez has looked pretty decent this spring and should fine in a backup role. However, does anyone think the Sox will have or should have interest in Rod Barajas or Ramon Hernandez who both will be released in the coming days? I don't see why. The job is Flowers, and he should get the majority of the time. After that Giminez should be fine as a 40 or so games a season back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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