Miami Steroid clinic thread

[ptatc]

I'd like to get my hands on some hgh for my knees.

Unfortunately, it only helps the rehab for muscle injuries. It has been shown to be a detriment to joint surfaces.

[Jake]

It's not TOO hard to get a prescription for testosterone, I know a lot of fitness-oriented guys that have done it. You're not given d-bol or something super potent, but T replacement therapy can have some big time physique benefits. Oftentimes you're sacrificing your fertility in this quest, though, if you jump into it as young as some of my acquaintances.

[BaseballNick]

Damn Cesar Carrillo too? He actually lived right around me on the southeast side of Chicago back in the day and I saw him play in little league. That sucks to hear.

 

I played with Cesar for a few years at Mount Carmel. It's sad to hear he took PEDs, but I understand why he did it. I actually went up to Milwaukee for his ML debut and saw Prince hit one close to 500ft off him. At that point I kind of knew it wasn't happening for him.

[ptatc]

It's not TOO hard to get a prescription for testosterone, I know a lot of fitness-oriented guys that have done it. You're not given d-bol or something super potent, but T replacement therapy can have some big time physique benefits. Oftentimes you're sacrificing your fertility in this quest, though, if you jump into it as young as some of my acquaintances.

This is the key. The dosage of the drug given out for replacement therapy is not enough to produce the massive strength change you see in the professional athletes. This is also very easy to detect with normal PED testing.

[IlliniKrush]

With 100% confidence, I can say that Frank Thomas was. If it turned out that he used steroids, I would never follow baseball again.

You can't be 100% confident about something like that, you don't know, no one but him does.

 

I don't think he did either, but I can't blame a person for being suspicious about ANYONE during that entire era.

[witesoxfan]

You can't be 100% confident about something like that, you don't know, no one but him does.

 

I don't think he did either, but I can't blame a person for being suspicious about ANYONE during that entire era.

 

I've kept myself hidden for far, far too long.

 

I am Frank Thomas.

[Jordan4life_2007]

I've kept myself hidden for far, far too long.

 

I am Frank Thomas.

 

Mr. Thomas. May I ask why you say "no doubt about it" every 3.6 seconds?

[witesoxfan]

Mr. Thomas. May I ask why you say "no doubt about it" every 3.6 seconds?

 

No doubt about it my friend! It's because it's an awesome saying. No doubt about it.

[southsider2k5]

Where are these doctors? All I've gotten is bulls*** rehab

 

Hit some homers and they will find you.

[RockRaines]

Unfortunately, it only helps the rehab for muscle injuries. It has been shown to be a detriment to joint surfaces.

So what are you thinking? Platelet therapy?

[Harry Chappas]

Mr. Thomas. May I ask why you say "no doubt about it" every 3.6 seconds?

 

Because he was a freak of nature physically and would be the focal point of PED's if he did not deny it every 3.6 seconds.

[Swingandalongonetoleft]

No doubt about it my friend! It's because it's an awesome saying. No doubt about it.

 

I've always imagined the real Mr. Thomas as one who would say No Diggity and now that image is shattered forever.

[witesoxfan]

I've always imagined the real Mr. Thomas as one who would say No Diggity and now that image is shattered forever.

 

Err, NO DIGITY, no doubt (about it)

[SOXOBAMA]

Gio Gonzalez ✔ @GioGonzalez47

 

I've never used performance enhancing drugs of any kind and I never will ,I've never met or spoken with tony Bosch or used any substance

[witesoxfan]

 

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We'll see when more evidence comes out

[Jake]

This is the key. The dosage of the drug given out for replacement therapy is not enough to produce the massive strength change you see in the professional athletes. This is also very easy to detect with normal PED testing.

 

The recent advent of topical TRT products is thanks to Patrick Arnold, the chemist behind the Cream and the Clear. He and I are acquaintances (he lives in Seymour, IL and still sells legal supplements).

 

Anyways, if the documents only say that Gio took the AminoRip, then that newspaper has done him a huge disservice. That's nothing, you can buy similar products all over the place. Under most conditions, they would do nothing at all.

 

Almost as asinine as the line of inquiry on Ray Lewis and Deer Antler Velvet, which doesn't do a damn thing.

[RockRaines]

The recent advent of topical TRT products is thanks to Patrick Arnold, the chemist behind the Cream and the Clear. He and I are acquaintances (he lives in Seymour, IL and still sells legal supplements).

 

Anyways, if the documents only say that Gio took the AminoRip, then that newspaper has done him a huge disservice. That's nothing, you can buy similar products all over the place. Under most conditions, they would do nothing at all.

 

Almost as asinine as the line of inquiry on Ray Lewis and Deer Antler Velvet, which doesn't do a damn thing.

IGF-1 is a primary mediator of the effects of growth hormone (GH). Growth hormone is made in the anterior pituitary gland, is released into the blood stream, and then stimulates the liver to produce IGF-1. IGF-1 then stimulates systemic body growth, and has growth-promoting effects on almost every cell in the body, especially skeletal muscle, cartilage, bone, liver, kidney, nerves, skin, hematopoietic cell, and lungs. In addition to the insulin-like effects, IGF-1 can also regulate cell growth and development, especially in nerve cells, as well as cellular DNA synthesis.

 

Are you saying its proven to not do anything or thats your opinion?

Edited January 29, 2013 by RockRaines

[Kyyle23]

Do you think that this could get Melky Cabrera additional time suspended?

[SOXOBAMA]

JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm

Brad Ziegler of AZ told us on SiriusXM that he recommended to PlayersAssn to increase drug susp. to 1yr for 1st offense lifetime 2nd offense

[Jake]

Are you saying its proven to not do anything or thats your opinion?

 

There's no research on human beings supportive of benefits to athletes, or really anybody.

 

Do you think that this could get Melky Cabrera additional time suspended?

 

That's a good question, I wondered the same thing. It wouldn't be fair if this was the original person he purchased from. If he lied about how he got things, though, strike him down.

[ptatc]

So what are you thinking? Platelet therapy?

Platelet therapy is for mostly for tendons. For the joints a little synthdisc or one of those is about the best you can do for an injection.

[RockRaines]

Platelet therapy is for mostly for tendons. For the joints a little synthdisc or one of those is about the best you can do for an injection.

Mine is cartilage, joints and ligaments. One of my biggest issues is my knee cap not settling back into its spot all the time.

[ptatc]

The recent advent of topical TRT products is thanks to Patrick Arnold, the chemist behind the Cream and the Clear. He and I are acquaintances (he lives in Seymour, IL and still sells legal supplements).

 

Anyways, if the documents only say that Gio took the AminoRip, then that newspaper has done him a huge disservice. That's nothing, you can buy similar products all over the place. Under most conditions, they would do nothing at all.

 

Almost as asinine as the line of inquiry on Ray Lewis and Deer Antler Velvet, which doesn't do a damn thing.

I would agree if that is all he took. It's wrong to group him in with the rest of them unless other substances were used.

 

The topicals like clear and creme are different. I was speaking to the typical prescription for low testosterone. It's the illegal ones that are in professional sports.

[ptatc]

Mine is cartilage, joints and ligaments. One of my biggest issues is my knee cap not settling back into its spot all the time.

most of the new research shows that the patella malalignment you are referring to is really caused by hip abductor and external rotator insufficiency. The larger hip muscles stabilize the femur and reduces the patella excursion.

[witesoxfan]

Do you think that this could get Melky Cabrera additional time suspended?

 

They have a set date for his positive test. If they do research and find that he purchased stuff after his positive test, they should suspend him again. Same for Mota and Colon and Grandal and whoever else too.