Balta1701 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 QUOTE (PorkChopExpress @ Feb 6, 2013 -> 11:50 AM) You say yourself that he is proven major league talent, so what makes you think he's only worth "a flyer" and that no one else seems to want him? If he's worth a flyer to the Sox, then he's worth a flyer to many other teams, and there are plenty of teams that were looking for OF help that didn't get it this off-season. Assuming he can actually get healthy (proven by a physical), there will be a market for him, even though it may be a small market, which means he can probably get a contract that is more than merely a flyer. That being said, his injuries, if I recall correctly and without actually looking it up, were of an ambiguous nature, i.e., leg fatigue or something like that. Those kinds of injuries give me more pause than a broken bone or torn ligament, for example. And a lot of his value was in his legs. Aside from any injury, he is also 30/31 this year, and age takes a toll on the legs, too. But I'll trust the professionals to determine whether he is healthy or not, and if they say he is, I would still pay more than a flyer to get him. You don't lose talent. Sizemore will likely have several teams wanting him at a minimum value if and when he chooses to sign. He's actually being smart, however, and waiting until he's as close to healthy as he can get before doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 You can count on 3 DL visits a year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Feb 6, 2013 -> 02:36 PM) You can count on 3 DL visits a year! Seems difficult since he won't start the year on the DL unless he signs with a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan-kwman Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Hermie can keep him healthy!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 6, 2013 -> 01:37 PM) Seems difficult since he won't start the year on the DL unless he signs with a team. Once he signs with a team, you knew what I meant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Since the Sox don't play the Tigers until just before the All Star break, perhaps they could wait until then to find that left handed, middle of the order bat. Sizemore would be ideal, if he were anywhere near as productive as he was when he was in his mid twenties. He was especially good against RHP. Voila!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Apparently, even a few of the Sox players are as concerned about the lack of left handed hitters on their roster, as some of us are: http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...ws&c_id=cws Sizemore could really help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 QUOTE (Lillian @ Feb 26, 2013 -> 05:34 PM) Apparently, even a few of the Sox players are as concerned about the lack of left handed hitters on their roster, as some of us are: http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...ws&c_id=cws Sizemore could really help. Could really help. If he were to remain healthy. There are great odds that he would not. I'm content with Wise and Danks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 26, 2013 -> 06:55 PM) Could really help. If he were to remain healthy. There are great odds that he would not. I'm content with Wise and Danks Very good chance that Danks's roster spot belongs to Gillaspie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 26, 2013 -> 07:28 PM) Very good chance that Danks's roster spot belongs to Gillaspie. Oh I'm aware, I'm just saying that I'd rather have Danks regardless of whether he's on the roster or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 With Granderson out I'm shocked the Yankees haven't already signed him. If he's got any pop left the short porch in right would be perfect for him. And no worries about the health issues, when he goes down with an injury maybe Granderson will be ready to go hah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 QUOTE (Cali @ Feb 27, 2013 -> 01:51 AM) With Granderson out I'm shocked the Yankees haven't already signed him. If he's got any pop left the short porch in right would be perfect for him. And no worries about the health issues, when he goes down with an injury maybe Granderson will be ready to go hah Why does no one read any other posts? The problem is...Sizemore isn't healthy right now. It will be midseason before he's ready to go, that's why he hasn't signed anywhere yet. The Yankees may as well say they're going to play ARod in CF to start the season; after all, he's just as useful as Sizemore would be out there right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 27, 2013 -> 08:36 AM) Why does no one read any other posts?The problem is...Sizemore isn't healthy right now. It will be midseason before he's ready to go, that's why he hasn't signed anywhere yet. The Yankees may as well say they're going to play ARod in CF to start the season; after all, he's just as useful as Sizemore would be out there right now. Lol i was thinking that. Lets get Sizemore and wait and hope he might be ok even though he hasnt been for like 4 straight years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Yes, I acknowledged that Sizemore is not expected to be ready to play until around June. I also stated, in an earlier post, that since the Sox don't play the Tigers until just before the All Star break, they might be able to wait for him. The point of this latest post was to simply refer to the article which reaffirms the fact that the Sox still need another, middle of the order, left handed bat. When players are openly discussing it, it is at the least, a perceived short coming. They may qualify their remarks, and offer rationalizations, but it is obviously on their minds, and well it should be. The article states precisely what I have been arguing; That the Tigers, as well as the rest of the Central Division, have a lot of tough right handed pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 QUOTE (Lillian @ Feb 27, 2013 -> 09:57 AM) Yes, I acknowledged that Sizemore is not expected to be ready to play until around June. I also stated, in an earlier post, that since the Sox don't play the Tigers until just before the All Star break, they might be able to wait for him. The point of this latest post was to simply refer to the article which reaffirms the fact that the Sox still need another, middle of the order, left handed bat. When players are openly discussing it, it is at the least, a perceived short coming. They may qualify their remarks, and offer rationalizations, but it is obviously on their minds, and well it should be. The article states precisely what I have been arguing; That the Tigers, as well as the rest of the Central Division, have a lot of tough right handed pitchers. And if something becomes available and it makes sense, I'm sure the Sox will pursue it. In the mean time, sit back and relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Damn fantasy baseball for making threads like this exist years after a player's last relevant campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 27, 2013 -> 10:03 AM) And if something becomes available and it makes sense, I'm sure the Sox will pursue it. In the mean time, sit back and relax. It makes no sense even when he gets healthy, unless it a minor league deal, with a very small major league cost if the team decides to pick him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 27, 2013 -> 03:00 PM) It makes no sense even when he gets healthy, unless it a minor league deal, with a very small major league cost if the team decides to pick him up. Even with that, you impede the progress of our young up and coming outfielders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 QUOTE (YASNY @ Feb 27, 2013 -> 05:55 PM) Even with that, you impede the progress of our young up and coming outfielders. Bah, none of them should be even really considered to replace Wise this year, and that'd be Sizemore's role if he was ever signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 27, 2013 -> 05:16 PM) Bah, none of them should be even really considered to replace Wise this year, and that'd be Sizemore's role if he was ever signed. I wasn't talking about them replacing Wise this year. I was thinking about taking away AAA AB's from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 QUOTE (YASNY @ Feb 27, 2013 -> 06:49 PM) I wasn't talking about them replacing Wise this year. I was thinking about taking away AAA AB's from them. If Sizemore signs anywhere it'll be a place where he can have a major league roster spot, I'd guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Oh, and Lillian...you wanted another left handed bat to face the tough righties? I imagine you'll see this lineup (or a variation) a few times in those situations 1) De Aza CF- L 2) Keppinger/Beckham 2B - R 3) Rios RF - R 4) Konerko 1B - R 5) Dunn DH - L 6) Wise LF - L 7) Gillaspie 3B - L 8) Ramirez SS - R 9) Gimenez C - S If at any point late in the game, they bring in a LH reliever to try and plow through that stretch of 3 lefties, you pinch hit Viciedo/Beckham/Keppinger, and it messes all of it up right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteward Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 The Righty/Lefty and ice versa match-ups are not always done in every game especially without considering individual match-up statistics and considerations about defensive issues. That is how very team and every Manager approach it. There is no absolute formula or set line-up vs. RH or LH starters, or at least there shouldn't be. If Flowers wants to be the every day starting catcher over time, he has to start most games no matter who is pitching. That is what it takes to provide leadership from that important position, more stability to the pitching staff, and more consistent hitting from our line-up. If we are going to be relying on Giminez to start a lot of games that probably won't work out very well. I hope I am wrong, believe me. I hope he plays and hits like Yadi Molina and shocks the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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