iamshack Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I'm speechless as to how a defense could be this f***ing horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Mel Tucker should be fired after this showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 10:12 PM) I think Trestman's mind is made up. That's why Cutler never lost his job. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 08:13 PM) He will still have even bigger run potential however. Lacy was averaging way more YPC when Rodgers was in. He's getting in the end zone more nowadays cause they have to run the ball more with Aaron out. We could stack all 11 in the box against and not stop the run. Simply increasing his attempts will undoubtedly produce more yards from scrimmage than any defensive considerations we might have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Briggs looks old and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 People here are saying fire Tucker, like the great Marinelli is doing so "amazing" with the Cowboys defense. Emery needs to draft DLs that can actually rush the QB (half of the problem right there) and a few other things regarding this defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I almost want the Eagles to score 60 at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 10:17 PM) People here are saying fire Tucker, like the great Marinelli is doing so "amazing" with the Cowboys defense. Emery needs to draft DLs that can actually rush the QB (half of the problem right there) and a few other things regarding this defense. Marinelli isn't calling the shots in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 10:17 PM) People here are saying fire Tucker, like the great Marinelli is doing so "amazing" with the Cowboys defense. Emery needs to draft DLs that can actually rush the QB (half of the problem right there) and a few other things regarding this defense. Tucker's resume nothing to write home about average a best..........he is not a keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 The defense is bad. Really bad. Maybe Mel Tucker should be fired. I'll let our Scout-in-Chief Emery decide whether Tucker deserves to get another year with different personnel. They lost us today's game. What we need to figure out is whether Jay Cutler is worth our investment. Not whether he is worth the franchise tag or a long-term deal. Is he worth any deal? Are we better off rolling with a mixture of McCown/rookie/cheap FA project for the long-term future or Jay Cutler? These are the choices. We have a great offensive core locked up for a few more years. Best WR tandem in the NFL. A top-5 RB. A very good TE. An OL with real potential. If you sign Cutler, you're saying that core lives and dies with him. Are you comfortable with that? These are the questions we have to sort out. Jay is not showing me he's worth the time. McCown may or may not outplay Cutler next year, but the monetary investment will be relatively small and you'll be free to open the door to the next guy if it isn't panning out/you have the next guy ready. I've been a huge Jay fan. I've been the guy DA is mocking in this thread. I don't think I believe in [the boy from] Santa Claus anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Maybe the best thing longterm is not make the playoffs at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 10:16 PM) We could stack all 11 in the box against and not stop the run. Simply increasing his attempts will undoubtedly produce more yards from scrimmage than any defensive considerations we might have. What I'm saying is Lacy's YPC was greater with Rodgers in the lineup in either case. Obviously with him back he might/will get less carries, but thats probably a good thing for GB as he'll be fresh for the playoffs if they win. I can see him easily getting 15-20 carries for 150+ instead of the 28-30 for 170+ he was getting after the Rodgers injury. Maybe add in a few more yards regarding the Bears D or maybe GB takes things slow with Rodgers working his way back leading to more carries anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 10:19 PM) The defense is bad. Really bad. Maybe Mel Tucker should be fired. I'll let our Scout-in-Chief Emery decide whether Tucker deserves to get another year with different personnel. They lost us today's game. What we need to figure out is whether Jay Cutler is worth our investment. Not whether he is worth the franchise tag or a long-term deal. Is he worth any deal? Are we better off rolling with a mixture of McCown/rookie/cheap FA project for the long-term future or Jay Cutler? These are the choices. We have a great offensive core locked up for a few more years. Best WR tandem in the NFL. A top-5 RB. A very good TE. An OL with real potential. If you sign Cutler, you're saying that core lives and dies with him. Are you comfortable with that? These are the questions we have to sort out. Jay is not showing me he's worth the time. McCown may or may not outplay Cutler next year, but the monetary investment will be relatively small and you'll be free to open the door to the next guy if it isn't panning out/you have the next guy ready. I've been a huge Jay fan. I've been the guy DA is mocking in this thread. I don't think I believe in [the boy from] Santa Claus anymore. I've defended Cutler for the past 4 years against irrational Bears fans. While their complaints were irrational, I'm not going to bother anymore. Cutler's had everything handed to him this year and he's still not an elite level QB. Meanwhile, a 34 year old journeyman outplayed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 10:19 PM) The defense is bad. Really bad. Maybe Mel Tucker should be fired. I'll let our Scout-in-Chief Emery decide whether Tucker deserves to get another year with different personnel. They lost us today's game. What we need to figure out is whether Jay Cutler is worth our investment. Not whether he is worth the franchise tag or a long-term deal. Is he worth any deal? Are we better off rolling with a mixture of McCown/rookie/cheap FA project for the long-term future or Jay Cutler? These are the choices. We have a great offensive core locked up for a few more years. Best WR tandem in the NFL. A top-5 RB. A very good TE. An OL with real potential. If you sign Cutler, you're saying that core lives and dies with him. Are you comfortable with that? These are the questions we have to sort out. Jay is not showing me he's worth the time. McCown may or may not outplay Cutler next year, but the monetary investment will be relatively small and you'll be free to open the door to the next guy if it isn't panning out/you have the next guy ready. I've been a huge Jay fan. I've been the guy DA is mocking in this thread. I don't think I believe in [the boy from] Santa Claus anymore. IMO, I can't see Cutler leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 10:17 PM) Marinelli isn't calling the shots in Dallas. He is the DL coach and they have the third worst pass rush in the NFL. That is on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 You could say that we had no chance to win with this defensive play and you'd be right. But you also have to concede that there is no good reason to believe that our offense looked like a group that could lead us to a win either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Getting Briggs back made us all optimistic but he looked like as bad of a player as any other on the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 10:30 PM) Getting Briggs back made us all optimistic but he looked like as bad of a player as any other on the defense. I don't think I saw him make a single tackle. Just him getting owned by linemen left and right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 10:21 PM) I've defended Cutler for the past 4 years against irrational Bears fans. While their complaints were irrational, I'm not going to bother anymore. Cutler's had everything handed to him this year and he's still not an elite level QB. Meanwhile, a 34 year old journeyman outplayed him. Even though you called many Cutler bashers emotional posters and I hate to say I told you so... but I told you so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Lacy may not play next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Yea I forgot about Lacy f***ing up his ankle again. Starks is still very dangerous in his own right. (well.. any RB is facing our defense) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 10:31 PM) Even though you called many Cutler bashers emotional posters and I hate to say I told you so... but I told you so I think it was quite evident that Cutler was the team's best option in previous years. However, all of that changed this year with Trestman, his offensive system, and McCown's play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 08:33 PM) Lacy may not play next week. Doesn't matter. Any running back runs all over us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 With ESPN's reports of Rodgers not even coming close to playing, I'm not sure if Rodgers will even play next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 22, 2013 -> 08:22 PM) IMO, I can't see Cutler leaving. Cutlers bears career will be decided next week. Play well and get in the playoffs and you stick around. Play poorly against green bay and I let him walk. I won't overreact based upon today. This game was lost for a lot of reasons and cutler wasn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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