Harry Chappas Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 10:47 AM) If you really think you and others on here know obvious plays that will no doubt work for yardage and Trestman doesn't, it's time for the Fire Trestman thread. Without a doubt if he called for one of these so called slants and the pass was tipped and picked off, the experts who now say that would have worked would have been saying, "they were in obvious FG range, why are they taking any chances? It's Monday morning. If whatever he called worked, he is a genius. If it didn't, it was foolish. For his career, indoors, Robbie Gould is 15-17 from 40-49 yards out. Before yesterday he had not missed since 2006 from 40-49 yards out while kicking indoors. Those are the stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 The only thing that scares me about the Bears under Trestman is they are giving off a sort of Cowboys vibe. A talented offensive team with a bad performing defense and makes stupid ST plays and penalties all over the field, good for 8-8 every year. And we have Jay Ratliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 01:00 PM) The only thing that scares me about the Bears under Trestman is they are giving off a sort of Cowboys vibe. A talented offensive team with a bad performing defense and makes stupid ST plays and penalties all over the field, good for 8-8 every year. And we have Jay Ratliff. And their former ST coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 01:00 PM) The only thing that scares me about the Bears under Trestman is they are giving off a sort of Cowboys vibe. A talented offensive team with a bad performing defense and makes stupid ST plays and penalties all over the field, good for 8-8 every year. And we have Jay Ratliff. Realistically we have no idea what the defense would have been this year. We had guys out for the season in the exhibition season, and it has been downhill since. The only main defensive player who hasn't missed time is Peppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 01:38 PM) Realistically we have no idea what the defense would have been this year. We had guys out for the season in the exhibition season, and it has been downhill since. The only main defensive player who hasn't missed time is Peppers. And he was absolutely brutal before getting 3 sacks yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 everything about this season has screamed transition to me, so Im not going to get overly worked up either way. As fun as the offense has been to watch, the defense has been that brutal. Things need to be fixed, but we all knew eventually the bottom would drop out of this high scoring defense sooner or later. Unfortunately the offense popped one season too late. Emery will have a very interesting offseason ahead of him. Many decisions to be made in personnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 01:47 PM) And he was absolutely brutal before getting 3 sacks yesterday. Agreed, though last game was teh first game he has had real defensive linemen next to him in quite some time to take some attention off of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 01:00 PM) The only thing that scares me about the Bears under Trestman is they are giving off a sort of Cowboys vibe. A talented offensive team with a bad performing defense and makes stupid ST plays and penalties all over the field, good for 8-8 every year. And we have Jay Ratliff. Its kind of funny that Dallas took Marinelli and their defense has also been historically bad. And for the most part they have had it intact, at least not to the injury numbers the Bears have experienced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 If you were ever going to transition from Cover 2/4-3 to a 3-4, this would be the year for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 08:38 PM) Realistically we have no idea what the defense would have been this year. We had guys out for the season in the exhibition season, and it has been downhill since. The only main defensive player who hasn't missed time is Peppers. Oh I know, and I feel really bad for Tucker and think he deserves another year. What the hell can he do? He rushes three to help with pass, they get no rush and the LBs are hysterically out of position. Need a pass rush? you need to rush 7, and they won't get there. Stop the run? Hell, put in 10 in the box, they'll be out of position and the RB will be untouched past your linebackers. I do think if you fix the dlineman you fix 90% of d's problems. But once again, that's the most expensive position. We need to hit on our drafts. We need to hit on our drafts. We need to hit on our drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 02:45 PM) Oh I know, and I feel really bad for Tucker and think he deserves another year. What the hell can he do? He rushes three to help with pass, they get no rush and the LBs are hysterically out of position. Need a pass rush? you need to rush 7, and they won't get there. Stop the run? Hell, put in 10 in the box, they'll be out of position and the RB will be untouched past your linebackers. I do think if you fix the dlineman you fix 90% of d's problems. But once again, that's the most expensive position. We need to hit on our drafts. We need to hit on our drafts. We need to hit on our drafts. Having a relatively healthy D-line would have fixed most of the problems by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 09:47 PM) Having a relatively healthy D-line would have fixed most of the problems by itself. But going into the season we knew our dline was super thin. You aren't going through an nfl season without injuries to that position. And we need to keep our guys fresh. I think Wootton and Peppers could still be good players but not if they are playing 100% of snaps. We are trying to rotate but it's with garbage players off the scrap heap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 02:53 PM) But going into the season we knew our dline was super thin. You aren't going through an nfl season without injuries to that position. And we need to keep our guys fresh. I think Wootton and Peppers could still be good players but not if they are playing 100% of snaps. We are trying to rotate but it's with garbage players off the scrap heap. It didnt help that the guy they signed to help with depth decided to retire on the first day of training camp(Cedric Ellis). They really got screwed right away on D Line. They have been in street guy mode all season at DT, and were sort of lucky that Ratliff became available, and I only say sort of because the Bears had to wait until he got healthy to play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Since deleted, but... It should be a league rule saying that a defender can not tackle a player by his penis. #NFL the most painful thing ever! #NFL — Vernon Davis (@VernonDavis85) December 2, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 02:43 PM) If you were ever going to transition from Cover 2/4-3 to a 3-4, this would be the year for it. Emery keeps saying it is not going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Pretty sure Wilson just threw a pass and it hit Kellen Davis in the face and bounced off and was caught by another player for a td Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Yup. And then the ref called a touchback and threw his hat down to signify change of possession. A real wtf moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Obviously anything can happen in one game but good luck beating Seattle in Seattle in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 10:19 PM) Obviously anything can happen in one game but good luck beating Seattle in Seattle in the playoffs. Exactly. I don't know if Seattle is the best team in the NFC but they are the overwhelming favorite with home field advantage. (Just disregard the Buccs game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 04:11 PM) Emery keeps saying it is not going to happen He's got a good point in that the 3/4 DT is really tough to find...but you could also say that just maybe he doesn't want to play his hand before signing or drafting that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 ESPN spent most of that game last night drooling over how loud the stadium was, but couldn't be bothered to mention that like half the Seahawks team has tested positive for PED's. That being said the Seahawks are by far the best team in the NFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:06 AM) He's got a good point in that the 3/4 DT is really tough to find...but you could also say that just maybe he doesn't want to play his hand before signing or drafting that guy. I agree, he could definitely make the switch if he feels he can slip the personnel into the scheme in one swift offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 BJ Raji is going to be a free agent, The Bears can sign him. I will drive him to the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 08:45 AM) BJ Raji is going to be a free agent, The Bears can sign him. I will drive him to the airport. Don't let him dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 08:19 PM) Obviously anything can happen in one game but good luck beating Seattle in Seattle in the playoffs. I see you've learned.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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