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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 23, 2013 -> 01:12 PM)
Bears are allowing 5.40 ypc this year. Sixth worst in league history.

 

I didn't realize it was that bad.

 

It's pretty routine to see other teams run a 5-6 yard play, so I'm not surprised whatsoever.

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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 23, 2013 -> 01:12 PM)
Bears are allowing 5.40 ypc this year. Sixth worst in league history.

 

I didn't realize it was that bad.

 

Sports fans love to overexaggerate and use ridiculous superlatives in describing how bad their teams are. In this case, however, they are all warranted for how bad the Bears run defense is. If the Packers were to sign Dorsey Levens or Edgar Bennett to replace Lacy on Sunday, they would have a decent chance to run for 100 yards, no matter how old they are today.

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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 23, 2013 -> 01:43 PM)
It's weird to see the Bears this bad at defense. In recent years even their bad defenses were still ok.

 

Lovie kept pushing the expiration date back and getting a lot out of what he had, but once that cliff came they went careening over it at 100 MPH

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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 23, 2013 -> 01:53 PM)
It'd be interesting to see how the defense would have done if Lovie was still around.

With the losses of Melton, Tillman, and Briggs I would guess petty bad. Maybe not this bad, but I think it's fair to say that it wouldn't be anywhere near last year. Peppers getting old hasn't helped either.

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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 23, 2013 -> 07:53 PM)
It'd be interesting to see how the defense would have done if Lovie was still around.

 

I think we could have been a top 15 scoring D still but still pretty bad in ypg given up.

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QUOTE (Boogua @ Dec 23, 2013 -> 01:55 PM)
With the losses of Melton, Tillman, and Briggs I would guess petty bad. Maybe not this bad, but I think it's fair to say that it wouldn't be anywhere near last year. Peppers getting old hasn't helped either.

 

The lack of turnover creation has just murdered a defense that specialized in giving up some yards, but getting the ball back.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 23, 2013 -> 01:14 PM)
It's pretty routine to see other teams run a 5-6 yard play, so I'm not surprised whatsoever.

With as many long runs as they allow, I am actually surprised it isn't worse. The Bears defense actually allows on average, the opponents RBs to be 1977 Walter Payton.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 23, 2013 -> 02:04 PM)
The lack of turnover creation has just murdered a defense that specialized in giving up some yards, but getting the ball back.

Agreed. I think a big part of the reason that the defense is having trouble creating turnovers is because the defense lost 3 pro bowlers though. Think about the roster turnover. Lovie had continuity on the defense for many years. He wouldn't have had that this year. Players like Roach, Idonije, and Urlacher were around for a while. That combined with the number of injuries is just a recipe for disaster.

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QUOTE (Boogua @ Dec 23, 2013 -> 02:12 PM)
Agreed. I think a big part of the reason that the defense is having trouble creating turnovers is because the defense lost 3 pro bowlers though. Think about the roster turnover. Lovie had continuity on the defense for many years. He wouldn't have had that this year. Players like Roach, Idonije, and Urlacher were around for a while. That combined with the number of injuries is just a recipe for disaster.

 

Losing Tillman was huge. He was good for at least 1 forced fumble every 2 games.

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QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 23, 2013 -> 09:00 PM)
Why would the Bears D be any better under Lovie? I mean these are like 3-4 string guys we're running out there.

 

I thought that was a valid excuse in week 5-9 but I'm done with that excuse at this point. Find me the "3-4" string guys we are running out there.

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 23, 2013 -> 02:15 PM)
So someone quickly educate me since I'm not a big NFC North guy. Are all 3 teams still in the hunt for the division crown?

 

The Lions Lionsed and therefore are no longer in the hunt. The Bears or Packers will finish with a better record(9-7 or 8-7-1) than they can possibly have(8-8)

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