RockRaines Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 24, 2013 -> 11:31 PM) I've concluded that he's uncoachable because he continues to make the same mistakes he has always made. It looked earlier this year like he may have made some strides but it no longer seems that way. He fails to make adjustments at the line, he holds the ball too long, he constantly throws off of his back foot, does not progress through his reads, holds the ball one-handed and near his waist in the pocket, and who knows what else. When people talk about Jay's wasted talent, this is why. This is why McCown can come in and outplay him. McCown will see the blitz and abuse it to the extent that they quit doing it. He doesn't turn the ball over. He makes the right reads. His inferior arm is nullified by the fact he steps into his throws with his feet under him. McCown is nothing special, he's just well coached. It is indeed hard to prove whether or not he is coachable, but the fact that he makes the most fundamental quarterbacking mistakes year after year with coach after coach leads me to believe it is the case. That doesn't mean he is a dickhead or that he has a bad relationship with his coaches. When I'm saying uncoachable, I'm saying that he is being coached and not implementing what is being coached. Maybe he's not smart enough or too scared of the rush from his early years or he's walking around half-concussed. I don't know why he is uncoachable, but I can't think of any other reason he has failed to improve any on these things that you're taught in high school. Do you ever get sick of making anti-Cutler posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 25, 2013 -> 10:11 AM) Do you ever get sick of making anti-Cutler posts? His posts seem very level-headed. I don't know how anyone can really disagree with any of the points he's made and I'm usually a pretty staunch Cutler supporter. It's just getting to the point where he's getting harder and harder to defend. He's clearly the better choice now because he has the arm that can win the bears games. The defense is so bad that you have to take the volatility that Jay brings to the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 25, 2013 -> 08:04 AM) I fully agree with you...I just wonder though, is the risk that McCown would suck, or that he would get injured? I am more concerned that he was coaching high school football last year and are you sure that he can keep up this play for a whole season as a starting quarterback? That's different than coming in as a backup for a few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 25, 2013 -> 10:11 AM) Do you ever get sick of making anti-Cutler posts? I think Jake has always been a Cutler supporter until the whole McCown thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 QUOTE (Boogua @ Dec 25, 2013 -> 11:10 AM) His posts seem very level-headed. I don't know how anyone can really disagree with any of the points he's made and I'm usually a pretty staunch Cutler supporter. It's just getting to the point where he's getting harder and harder to defend. He's clearly the better choice now because he has the arm that can win the bears games. The defense is so bad that you have to take the volatility that Jay brings to the offense. Its hard to notice the level headed ones when 99% of his others are hilariously biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Ya I think Jake is one of the better, more level headed posters on this site but his posts on Cutler definitely read as a grudge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 so is Rodgers gonna be cleared or will GB err on the side of caution? Im torn, on one hand I know that GB and Rodgers would love to stick it too Chicago in this crazy NFC North. On the other hand, GB has a lot to lose if Rodgers comes back and re-breaks the collarbone, and given their injuries and defense this year, it doesnt look like they are going to beast through the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 26, 2013 -> 09:56 AM) so is Rodgers gonna be cleared or will GB err on the side of caution? Im torn, on one hand I know that GB and Rodgers would love to stick it too Chicago in this crazy NFC North. On the other hand, GB has a lot to lose if Rodgers comes back and re-breaks the collarbone, and given their injuries and defense this year, it doesnt look like they are going to beast through the playoffs. Word is he's not healing very quickly. And do you risk him getting injured again? I dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 26, 2013 -> 10:03 AM) Word is he's not healing very quickly. And do you risk him getting injured again? I dont know. From what I keep hearing, if he breaks it again, its a minimum 6 month heal time after surgery. So, he theoretically could be ready for next season, but who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Rodgers isn't going to play. The Packers, I'm sure will be making that official in a couple of hours. Sounds like Randall Cobb will be back though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 26, 2013 -> 10:07 AM) Rodgers isn't going to play. The Packers, I'm sure will be making that official in a couple of hours. Sounds like Randall Cobb will be back though. What was Cobbs injury? knee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I've always been a huge Cutler fan. I'm just not sure how many more times I can be told that "if _____, then you'll see the real Cutler!" I always felt like cutting him loose was such a big risk for us, which it is. Now, though, it's becoming clear that keeping him is itself quite the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 26, 2013 -> 10:08 AM) What was Cobbs injury? knee? Fractured his right fibula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 26, 2013 -> 04:07 PM) Rodgers isn't going to play. The Packers, I'm sure will be making that official in a couple of hours. Sounds like Randall Cobb will be back though. I feel like if I was the packers I would be practicing some full on 2011 Broncos crap and just power run the crap out of the Bears and keep as much TOP as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 26, 2013 -> 10:12 AM) I feel like if I was the packers I would be practicing some full on 2011 Broncos crap and just power run the crap out of the Bears and keep as much TOP as possible. If Lacy plays, I would bet they would do something like that. I would also run Cobb out of the backfield as well. If he plays. Edited December 26, 2013 by GoSox05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 26, 2013 -> 10:05 AM) From what I keep hearing, if he breaks it again, its a minimum 6 month heal time after surgery. So, he theoretically could be ready for next season, but who knows Yeah, I'm not sure thats what they want to do, I mean the guy is literally the entire team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Going to be cold really cold, not good for brittle bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 While I was saying that everyone benefits from making the playoffs whether you are likely to succeed there or not, the Packers need not take any risks with their important players to get there. Probably makes me just look biased as a Bears fan, but if Cobb or Rodgers are at risk on Sunday, they shouldn't be running them out there. I'm almost positive Rodgers is at risk, but I'm not sure about Cobb. They should be trying to win, but it wouldn't make much sense to sacrifice two of their most important players just to finish 8-7-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Rodgers operating as the first team QB in practice today during the portion open to the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 @Paulimig #Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers WILL start Sunday vs. Bears, according to a source. I was way off on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxsoxsoxsox Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 26, 2013 -> 01:11 PM) @Paulimig #Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers WILL start Sunday vs. Bears, according to a source. I was way off on this one. too bad he doesn't have a brother Reggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Well Shea, you have one job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Gotta hope it takes a while for him to knock the rust off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 26, 2013 -> 12:29 PM) Gotta hope it takes a while for him to knock the rust off. If it took Cutler a half, it'll take Rodgers 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Dec 26, 2013 -> 12:13 PM) too bad he doesn't have a brother Reggie oh snap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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