mr_genius Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (ptatc @ Feb 6, 2013 -> 09:14 PM) This is why the state university system cannot keep students in state. then perhaps you do not work for us and it would be unfair for us to pay taxes toward the school. Simply have the foreign students pay the pensions. Remove all esponsibility from Illinois tax payers if the school refuses to accept appropriate numbers of them as students. Edited February 7, 2013 by mr_genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 6, 2013 -> 06:13 PM) (This isn't actually why they're losing money. They're losing money because Congress passed a law a few years ago requiring them to pre-fund their pension plan out to 75 years by 2016, something that I'm pretty sure no one has to do anywhere. Without that enormous pension pre-funding, the USPS would actually be operating at a profit right now, despite being required to maintain saturday delivery and maintaining unprofitable post offices throughout the country in rural areas). The first time I read this I couldn't believe it was true. They are literally funding pensions for future employees that haven't even been born yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Feb 6, 2013 -> 09:38 PM) You do realize USPS delivers 35% of UPS and Fed Ex packages in the US on the last mile program? Already covered, Hoss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Feb 7, 2013 -> 10:48 AM) then perhaps you do not work for us and it would be unfair for us to pay taxes toward the school. Simply have the foreign students pay the pensions. Remove all esponsibility from Illinois tax payers if the school refuses to accept appropriate numbers of them as students. This is changing as the state has cut the funding of it's state universities from almost 75% to only 20%. It's not the foriegn student because many of them get reduced tuition by federal and other means, it's the out of state students (assuming you mean foreign as in country). It's the state cutting funding as putting a cap on raising tuition that has the universities looking for alternative funding streams ie. out of state students. I would prefer that the state stop the ruse of us being state schools and cuts us free to run it as we wish. However, there's that mission of making higher education accessible to the underprivleged and underrepresented that they force us to accommodate. When I started the low salary was in place with a promise of the pension. Besides, the public hasn't paid into the pension for almost 10 years so there isn't anything to complain about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Congress did not like the PMG thinking he can change delivery days on his own without there approval in heaing today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Feb 13, 2013 -> 06:16 PM) Congress did not like the PMG thinking he can change delivery days on his own without there approval in heaing today! He'd probably be happy to trade continued Saturday Delivery for fixing the insane pension prepayment rules. But more likely Congress will do nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 13, 2013 -> 05:38 PM) He'd probably be happy to trade continued Saturday Delivery for fixing the insane pension prepayment rules. But more likely Congress will do nothing. I agree with both statements. Edited February 14, 2013 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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