2013 MLB Catch-All thread

[fathom]

Wow, Jose Reyes looks hurt bad. He's writhing on the field. Sliding into 2nd his ankle bent under him.

 

Looks like a broken ankle

[flavum]

Wow, Jose Reyes looks hurt bad. He's writhing on the field. Sliding into 2nd his ankle bent under him.

 

Normally I would say that's a good break for the Sox if we miss him.

 

But I hope he's ok.

[flavum]

Ramiro Pena...and you are....?

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

Wow, Jose Reyes looks hurt bad. He's writhing on the field. Sliding into 2nd his ankle bent under him.

 

Ahhh, the curse of my fantasy team begins! Poor Jose, he looked poised for an awesome season in TOR.

[flavum]

Shelby Miller had about the same line as Quintana tonight.

[Swingandalongonetoleft]

Watching Col @ SD and they just showed a replay of the two Greinke pitches in a row that nearly took Quentin's head off. That looked pretty bad, and really, I think anyone showing a replay of the recent occurrence should include that clip either immediately before, or after said footage.

Edited April 13, 2013 by Swingandalongonetoleft

[zenryan]

Watching Col @ SD and they just showed a replay of the two Greinke pitches in a row that nearly took Quentin's head off. That looked pretty bad, and really, I think anyone showing a replay of the recent occurrence should include that clip either immediately before, or after said footage.

 

 

 

wait, so Greinke almost his CQ twice before in the same AB?

 

 

that pretty much changes everything.

[Swingandalongonetoleft]

wait, so Greinke almost his CQ twice before in the same AB?

 

 

that pretty much changes everything.

 

To clarify, that particular AB took place while he was still with the Sox in 2009 (I think it was '09).

[LittleHurt05]

Normally I would say that's a good break for the Sox if we miss him.

 

But I hope he's ok.

 

Read the last 50 posts in this thread. It's OK to root for injury.

[Jake]

I think many arguing on Q's behalf are peeved by the fact that the media have tried to paint this as a "this is totally Carlos Quentin's fault" situation. First of all, intent is not the only factor here. You shouldn't be hitting batters, whether you can control yourself or not. Injuries have cost CQ countless millions and he has a right to be pissed off when people hit him with a pitch, whether he's good at getting out of the way or not. Hitting people with pitched balls, intentional or no, isn't a guiltless offense.

 

Q starts walking toward Greinke -- this is where most interpret that he is to blame. This was certainly a step in escalation, after the hit batsman situation was the first. When Q walked toward the mound, it should have been over. This is when Greinke says something -- an "expletive," something bad -- and Q can no longer contain himself. His plans change at this moment, deciding to attack Greinke. This is not great thinking by CQ, but also represents an escalation on the part of Greinke.

 

Greinke doesn't back off, try to take a glancing blow, but instead lowers his shoulder in an apparent attempt to go tit for tat in the upcoming collision. This is where Greinke is totally stupid. He actually would have been better off to receive the collision fully than resist. The "smart" thing was putting his left side forward, but that also earned him a broken collarbone. Despite CQ's rage, Greinke could have done things to diffuse the situation or at least minimize his own risk. It still seems flukey that he breaks the collarbone though, even though collarbone breaks always seem flukey since they are so easy to have happen.

 

This is just two guys that lost their tempers and got into a fight. I don't know if Greinke lost it before or after the pitch that hit CQ, but I don't really care. It isn't fair that CQ has been completely villified as the only belligerent in the situation. Pay grade and body mass are the main considerations in these arguments.

 

Ahhh, the curse of my fantasy team begins! Poor Jose, he looked poised for an awesome season in TOR.

 

I avoided him like the plague because of his injury history. One of the bittersweet moments of being right, since someone has to suffer when you accurately predict something gloomy. It's too bad, because he is really an excellent player.

[caulfield12]

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle...icial-breakdown

 

 

Greinke vs. Quentin Dissected Fully

 

 

What is South Side Asylum? Lots of background on Greinke's history with the Royals against the Sox.

[justBLAZE]

Shin Soo Choo, worst CF in baseball ?

[caulfield12]

Shin Soo Choo, worst CF in baseball ?

 

 

He shouldn't ever be playing CF, any more than Nick Swisher for us.

 

He's a very good RFer, with an excellent arm, but not suited for CF because of range/speed/route issues.

[fathom]

He shouldn't ever be playing CF, any more than Nick Swisher for us.

 

He's a very good RFer, with an excellent arm, but not suited for CF because of range/speed/route issues.

 

With Heisey playing terrible, they should just put Hamilton in CF and Choo in LF.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

Watching Col @ SD and they just showed a replay of the two Greinke pitches in a row that nearly took Quentin's head off. That looked pretty bad, and really, I think anyone showing a replay of the recent occurrence should include that clip either immediately before, or after said footage.

 

Got a link?

[Quin]

Both TCQ and Greinke were stupid.

 

That being said, I like TCQ and don't like Greinke, so I don't feel sad for Greinke. He talked s*** to a guy who broke his hand on his bat he was so mad.

[caulfield12]

Just when it looked as if the Angels couldn't sink any lower, they hit rock bottom with a thud Friday in a 5-0 loss to the Houston Astros.

 

These are the same Astros who lost 213 games the last two seasons; the same Astros whose $22-million payroll is less than the free-spending Angels pay the right side of their infield.

 

These are the same Angels who started the season with World Series aspirations, then started Friday's game with five All-Stars in their lineup.

 

BOX SCORE: Houston 5, Angels 0

 

It should have been a rout — and it was, with the Astros scoring three times in the first inning while the Angels failed to get a runner past first base all night.

 

The loss was the Angels' fifth straight, leaving them winless on their first homestand of the season. At 2-8, they not only have the American League's worst record but they've equaled a 52-year-old mark for the worst start in franchise history.

 

And if all that wasn't embarrassing enough, the game ended with Josh Hamilton forgetting how many outs there were, allowing himself to be doubled off first base on Mark Trumbo's foulout.

 

Afterward Angel Manager Mike Scioscia didn’t have to think long to sum up his team’s problems.

 

"It’s pretty simple. We’re not pitching and we’re getting behind early," Scioscia said. "When you get behind early it really gives the other team a chance to match up, to use their bullpen. Gives their starter some breathing room."

 

And opposing pitchers have been able to breathe easy against the Angels who, 10 games into their six-month season, have a cleanup hitter in Hamilton with more strikeouts (14) than hits and runs batted in combined (11). The entire left side of the infield as well as their top starting pitcher are out with injuries, they’ve grounded into more double plays (10) than they’ve hit home runs (8) and after committing two errors against the Astros, they lead the majors in that department with 11.

 

Then there’s the pitching. No Angel starter has gotten past the sixth inning this season, which has put enormous pressure on a bullpen that remains unsettled. That streak didn’t end Friday.

 

“The heartbeat of your club is your starting pitching. And when your starting pitching is not getting to a certain point in the game, it makes it very, very tough,” Scioscia said.

 

Kevin Baxter/LA Times

[Milkman delivers]

I think many arguing on Q's behalf are peeved by the fact that the media have tried to paint this as a "this is totally Carlos Quentin's fault" situation. First of all, intent is not the only factor here. You shouldn't be hitting batters, whether you can control yourself or not. Injuries have cost CQ countless millions and he has a right to be pissed off when people hit him with a pitch, whether he's good at getting out of the way or not. Hitting people with pitched balls, intentional or no, isn't a guiltless offense.

 

Q starts walking toward Greinke -- this is where most interpret that he is to blame. This was certainly a step in escalation, after the hit batsman situation was the first. When Q walked toward the mound, it should have been over. This is when Greinke says something -- an "expletive," something bad -- and Q can no longer contain himself. His plans change at this moment, deciding to attack Greinke. This is not great thinking by CQ, but also represents an escalation on the part of Greinke.

 

Greinke doesn't back off, try to take a glancing blow, but instead lowers his shoulder in an apparent attempt to go tit for tat in the upcoming collision. This is where Greinke is totally stupid. He actually would have been better off to receive the collision fully than resist. The "smart" thing was putting his left side forward, but that also earned him a broken collarbone. Despite CQ's rage, Greinke could have done things to diffuse the situation or at least minimize his own risk. It still seems flukey that he breaks the collarbone though, even though collarbone breaks always seem flukey since they are so easy to have happen.

 

This is just two guys that lost their tempers and got into a fight. I don't know if Greinke lost it before or after the pitch that hit CQ, but I don't really care. It isn't fair that CQ has been completely villified as the only belligerent in the situation. Pay grade and body mass are the main considerations in these arguments.

 

 

 

I avoided him like the plague because of his injury history. One of the bittersweet moments of being right, since someone has to suffer when you accurately predict something gloomy. It's too bad, because he is really an excellent player.

 

Do you work in law somehow? That was an excellent breakdown.

[Jake]

Do you work in law somehow? That was an excellent breakdown.

 

Sure don't. I could only dream of being like my heroes Badger and jenks

[LittleHurt05]

I think many arguing on Q's behalf are peeved by the fact that the media have tried to paint this as a "this is totally Carlos Quentin's fault" situation. First of all, intent is not the only factor here. You shouldn't be hitting batters, whether you can control yourself or not. Injuries have cost CQ countless millions and he has a right to be pissed off when people hit him with a pitch, whether he's good at getting out of the way or not. Hitting people with pitched balls, intentional or no, isn't a guiltless offense.

 

Q starts walking toward Greinke -- this is where most interpret that he is to blame. This was certainly a step in escalation, after the hit batsman situation was the first. When Q walked toward the mound, it should have been over. This is when Greinke says something -- an "expletive," something bad -- and Q can no longer contain himself. His plans change at this moment, deciding to attack Greinke. This is not great thinking by CQ, but also represents an escalation on the part of Greinke.

 

Greinke doesn't back off, try to take a glancing blow, but instead lowers his shoulder in an apparent attempt to go tit for tat in the upcoming collision. This is where Greinke is totally stupid. He actually would have been better off to receive the collision fully than resist. The "smart" thing was putting his left side forward, but that also earned him a broken collarbone. Despite CQ's rage, Greinke could have done things to diffuse the situation or at least minimize his own risk. It still seems flukey that he breaks the collarbone though, even though collarbone breaks always seem flukey since they are so easy to have happen.

 

This is just two guys that lost their tempers and got into a fight. I don't know if Greinke lost it before or after the pitch that hit CQ, but I don't really care. It isn't fair that CQ has been completely villified as the only belligerent in the situation. Pay grade and body mass are the main considerations in these arguments.

 

 

 

I avoided him like the plague because of his injury history. One of the bittersweet moments of being right, since someone has to suffer when you accurately predict something gloomy. It's too bad, because he is really an excellent player.

 

 

It's nice to see someone provide a logical argument instead of just screaming "Greinke is a b**** and his p**** hurts!"

 

I see your argument. I have never portrayed Greinke as a saint, but one verbal comment doesn't justify starting a physical fight on a baseball field IMO. That's why I lay most of the blame on CQ. Talk back to him, then hit a homer in your next AB.

Edited April 13, 2013 by LittleHurt05

[Steve9347]

[Reddy]

 

wtf was that slide?

[Reddy]

Konerko defends Quentin.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,6386586.story

 

great points. love me some Paulie.

[IlliniKrush]

First of all that's a terrible injury, feel bad for him.

 

I haven't seen anything but what you just posted, what was the situation? It doesn't like look a steal since he's looking in like it was a hit and run or a possible ball 4 situation. He looks like he's going in slowly to begin with, and then decides oh there's a play here, I need to slide, and forces the awkward slide.

 

I know you can get hurt during any play, but I think if he's running normally and doing a routine slide that he's done thousands of times, he probably doesn't get hurt there.

[southsider2k5]

 

Wow. That was horrible. At that point just stay up and take the out.