witesoxfan Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 12:50 PM) I didn't want to put him on this list because his mehness just started this year and I'm not sure if it's a trend yet. Having the Tigers stuck with 23 million for the next 5 years or whatever of a mediocre player wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, though. It's for the next 7 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 That's pretty scary about Fielder. 2009 wRC+ 161 2010 wRC+ 136 2011 wRC+ 161 2012 wRC+ 153 2013 wRC+ 115 And 2010 was considered a bad year by his standards. This year has been nothing short of abysmal. But abysmal Fielder still has a higher wRC+ than anybody on the White Sox. That's pretty funny, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Relevant: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2013-anti-t...orst-contracts/ QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 01:57 PM) That's pretty scary about Fielder. 2009 wRC+ 161 2010 wRC+ 136 2011 wRC+ 161 2012 wRC+ 153 2013 wRC+ 115 And 2010 was considered a bad year by his standards. This year has been nothing short of abysmal. But abysmal Fielder still has a higher wRC+ than anybody on the White Sox. That's pretty funny, I guess. You mean "anybody on the White Sox EXCEPT Dylan Axelrod." Oh, and Dunn is at 114, so that's a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (zenryan @ Aug 4, 2013 -> 10:43 PM) Someone might want to tell him not to look so bored when hitting mammoth bombs. Fun fact: Wil Myers only has .6 less WAR than James Shields and he's only played in 41 games. How does Dayton Moore still have a job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 03:03 PM) Fun fact: Wil Myers only has .6 less WAR than James Shields and he's only played in 41 games. How does Dayton Moore still have a job? That was such a dumb, dumb trade. Who didn't see this coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 04:03 PM) That was such a dumb, dumb trade. Who didn't see this coming? There's writers in KC saying the deal still isn't bad. When the Royals finish the year with 82 wins and a third place finish, we'll see what they say then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 05:17 PM) There's writers in KC saying the deal still isn't bad. When the Royals finish the year with 82 wins and a third place finish, we'll see what they say then. They have Shields next year right? If they make the playoffs either this year or next year then I'd figure some people will say it's Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 04:17 PM) They have Shields next year right? If they make the playoffs either this year or next year then I'd figure some people will say it's Ok. They are dumb then. Without Nick Swisher, the White Sox don't make the playoffs in 2008, but you don't see people claiming his acquisition from Oakland was a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 05:31 PM) They are dumb then. Without Nick Swisher, the White Sox don't make the playoffs in 2008, but you don't see people claiming his acquisition from Oakland was a good one. If that was our first playoff visit in 20+ years I might think differently. And one big difference would be that Shields is actually contributing to the Royals, not being benched and useless. If Swisher hit 35 HR that year and the Sox made the playoffs with him helping a lot, I'd have cared a lot less about giving up Gio for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 04:17 PM) They have Shields next year right? If they make the playoffs either this year or next year then I'd figure some people will say it's Ok. I agree that if Shields is a big part of them finally making the playoffs, it would be an OK trade for that franchise. Question is though, how many wins would they have if they never made the trade and Myers started opening day instead of Francouer. They might be in the same position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 09:31 PM) They are dumb then. Without Nick Swisher, the White Sox don't make the playoffs in 2008, but you don't see people claiming his acquisition from Oakland was a good one. He had a negative WAR that year. We still make the playoffs. He was truly awful. Edited August 9, 2013 by Buehrle>Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 07:19 PM) He had a negative WAR that year. We still make the playoffs. He was truly awful. Maybe negative bWAR. His fWAR was 1.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 The White Sox do not have the worst farm system in baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 90% boos for Arod at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 07:16 PM) 90% boos for Arod at home. No way he finishes his contract in New York. Yankees will cut him and eat his salary, maybe right when the suspension ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 06:16 PM) 90% boos for Arod at home. Nothing like hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 12:43 PM) I was looking at another thread on another board from a couple years ago where a Phillies fan was defending the Phillies giving Howard 22 mil for 6 years, where everyone was saying the contract was an overpay and going to start looking awful a couple years into the deal. Adrian Gonzalez was brought up as a comparison and how much better a player he was than Howard, and how Howard's contract won't look that bad once Pujols and Fielder get their deals. Funny, now... ALL of those mega-contracts look bad now except Fielder. There are some truly terrible contracts, in otherworldly-bad territory right now, over 20 million for players who've been just average or are truly bad. For all the arguing done about Gonzalez in that thread he's been a pretty much above-average player nowhere near worth his deal. A-Rod... nuff said, this one was easy to call at the time too Pujols - nobody really understands this one Hamilton - could have been called at the time Teixeira - pretty much paying for the '09 World Series, really meh since then, coulda been called at the time too Sabathia - can be excused from this list since he's been great for most of his deal but is really expensive from here in the rest of it Crawford - not even remotely close to worth the money Compared to these guys Cabrera's deal looks downright cheap. It's like MLB GMs got NBA GM syndrome from like 2009 to 2013. You forgot Jayson Werth and Joe Mauer. Those deals are LOL bad. Verlander is about to be LOL bad too. Considering some of the deals the Tigers are stuck with, it's fitting they're from Detroit. They're going to need a bailout too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchwarmerjim Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 how is Joe Mauer's contract 'LOL bad'? by the end of the contract in 2018, paying him $23 mil to be a 1B/DH will be not good value, but so far Mauer's numbers have come close to his free agent value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Why so much? http://www.redbubble.com/people/gigawatt12...ting-white-text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Almost a bit surprised that I haven't yet stumbled upon an article speculating that two blown saves in a row are just Rivera being a good teammate and trying to take the spotlight off A-Rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 PSYCH OUT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Motley Crüe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 11, 2013 -> 02:42 PM) Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 12, 2013 Author Share Posted August 12, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 08:41 PM) No way he finishes his contract in New York. Yankees will cut him and eat his salary, maybe right when the suspension ends I still think they try voiding his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 12, 2013 -> 12:34 PM) I still think they try voiding his contract. I think we'll start hearing about this right after the arbitration ruling in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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