2013 MLB Catch-All thread

[southsider2k5]

Please find me the rule.

 

 

Baseball has something they call "Standards of Situation handling." It isn't public like their regular rules, but it does exist. An umpire was suspended last year using these standards. Umpires to have rules to follow.

[Balta1701]

Reporter taking self photo at Fenway during BP at the same time a home run is hit...

[IlliniKrush]

Baseball has something they call "Standards of Situation handling." It isn't public like their regular rules, but it does exist. An umpire was suspended last year using these standards. Umpires to have rules to follow.

Suspended for what? Saying a curse word? Doubt it.

[southsider2k5]

Suspended for what? Saying a curse word? Doubt it.

 

That was a large part of it. The other part was following the player to yell at him. Sound familiar?

[IlliniKrush]

That was a large part of it. The other part was following the player to yell at him. Sound familiar?

What was said? Video? Link?

 

No it doesn't, as every situation is different.

 

You're offended by curse words, I get it. Saying one doesn't warrant an ejection or suspension.

[southsider2k5]

What was said? Video? Link?

 

No it doesn't, as every situation is different.

 

You're offended by curse words, I get it. Saying one doesn't warrant an ejection or suspension.

 

lol. I'm offended by the idea that umpires somehow don't have any rules to follow. That is just nonsense. When the umpire becomes the aggressor, he has crossed a line. They have ways to control a situation, and that isn't the right way to do it.

[IlliniKrush]

lol. I'm offended by the idea that umpires somehow don't have any rules to follow. That is just nonsense. When the umpire becomes the aggressor, he has crossed a line. They have ways to control a situation, and that isn't the right way to do it.

OMG he said a swear word. Big f***ing deal. He did not call him anything.

 

Price was the aggressor, showing him up, then yelling at him as he walked off.

 

Umpires are allowed to respond back, and it doesn't have to be something rated PG. Players have sworn, managers have sworn, umpires have sworn. We've all watched enough baseball to see that.

[southsider2k5]

OMG he said a swear word. Big f***ing deal. He did not call him anything.

 

Price was the aggressor, showing him up, then yelling at him as he walked off.

 

Umpires are allowed to respond back, and it doesn't have to be something rated PG. Players have sworn, managers have sworn, umpires have sworn. We've all watched enough baseball to see that.

 

Umpires are allowed to do whatever they want. Players face consequences, umpires don't. Got it.

 

In reality, if you can't handle a position of power, you shouldn't be in it. Period.

[IlliniKrush]

Umpires are allowed to do whatever they want. Players face consequences, umpires don't. Got it.

 

In reality, if you can't handle a position of power, you shouldn't be in it. Period.

Nope, never said that. They should face consequences when warranted.

 

Handle a position of power? Again, not robots. You don't take take take and not give back. That's not how officiating works on any level.

[Dick Allen]

OMG he said a swear word. Big f***ing deal. He did not call him anything.

 

Price was the aggressor, showing him up, then yelling at him as he walked off.

 

Umpires are allowed to respond back, and it doesn't have to be something rated PG. Players have sworn, managers have sworn, umpires have sworn. We've all watched enough baseball to see that.

MLB is investigating. The fact that they are investigating tells anyone paying attention, if what Price said is true, Hallion crossed a line.

[southsider2k5]

Nope, never said that. They should face consequences when warranted.

 

Handle a position of power? Again, not robots. You don't take take take and not give back. That's not how officiating works on any level.

 

You can't handle of a position of power if criticism of your performance leads you into expletive filled tirade where you have to follow a player towards the dugout to deliver it. That isn't how officiating is supposed to work. It is why baseball has standards of conduct for situations exactly like this. If the umpire felt Price stepped over the line, throw him out. They have the authority to do that. They don't have the authority to curse players on their way back to the dugout. If they do, I would sure love to see the rule that states it is OK.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

Reporter taking self photo at Fenway during BP at the same time a home run is hit...

 

Yeah, I don't know if I believe that. Like one of the comments says, how do you not notice that a ball almost drilled you in the head until you see the picture to send it out? She should have known the second it smashed in to something a few feet away from her.

[southsider2k5]

James Wagner ‏@JamesWagnerWP 2h

 

Davey says team doctor will take a look at Stephen Strasburg. Not expected to miss next start but side session Wednesday will tell.

[IlliniKrush]

You can't handle of a position of power if criticism of your performance leads you into expletive filled tirade where you have to follow a player towards the dugout to deliver it. That isn't how officiating is supposed to work. It is why baseball has standards of conduct for situations exactly like this. If the umpire felt Price stepped over the line, throw him out. They have the authority to do that. They don't have the authority to curse players on their way back to the dugout. If they do, I would sure love to see the rule that states it is OK.

Being shown up on the field and being b****ed at after the inning is not fair "criticism of your performance." They aren't sitting ducks for people doing and saying whatever they want.

 

Expletive filled tirade? So now a tirade is "throw the ball over the f***ing plate?"

 

I've yet to see something where he followed him all the way to the dugout.

 

Again, you don't always have to eject someone. The goal, and what is instructed, is to do whatever you can to keep them in the game.

 

Show me the rule that says an umpire can't swear, or for that matter, the one that says a player/manager can't swear. I already mentioned this, but swearing happens on the field. You've seen the same arguments I have, and they don't always lead to ejections.

 

But hey, every game has 40,000 umpires that know exactly how to do the job.

[southsider2k5]

Being shown up on the field and being b****ed at after the inning is not fair "criticism of your performance." They aren't sitting ducks for people doing and saying whatever they want.

 

Expletive filled tirade? So now a tirade is "throw the ball over the f***ing plate?"

 

I've yet to see something where he followed him all the way to the dugout.

 

Again, you don't always have to eject someone. The goal, and what is instructed, is to do whatever you can to keep them in the game.

 

Show me the rule that says an umpire can't swear, or for that matter, the one that says a player/manager can't swear. I already mentioned this, but swearing happens on the field. You've seen the same arguments I have, and they don't always lead to ejections.

 

But hey, every game has 40,000 umpires that know exactly how to do the job.

 

I'm still waiting to see where what the ump did is ok. Where does it say that umps can curse at players in lieu of ejecting them because the ump doesn't have to control his temper because he is the umpire?

 

The whole idea that he was saving price by swearing at him is dumb. price was finishing an inning at about 120 pitches. He wasn't coming back into the game anyway.

[southsider2k5]

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_...450&c_id=tb

 

Here is the best video. price had something to say on the previous pitch. After his last pitch he puts his head down and walks to the dugout. He does not say a word until the umpire comes walking towards Price, with something to say. In the very last clip in the video you can see the umpire all of the way over by the Rays bench.

 

It is pretty clear that Tom Hallion was out of line here. MLB is even reviewing the situation.

[IlliniKrush]

I'm still waiting to see where what the ump did is ok. Where does it say that umps can curse at players in lieu of ejecting them because the ump doesn't have to control his temper because he is the umpire?

 

The whole idea that he was saving price by swearing at him is dumb. price was finishing an inning at about 120 pitches. He wasn't coming back into the game anyway.

I'm still waiting to see why saying a swear word is the most egregious thing you've ever seen in your life.

 

OMG he said a swear word, something players and managers do all the time (hell, Price could have been saying one during any of his yelling).

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_...450&c_id=tb

 

Here is the best video. price had something to say on the previous pitch. After his last pitch he puts his head down and walks to the dugout. He does not say a word until the umpire comes walking towards Price, with something to say. In the very last clip in the video you can see the umpire all of the way over by the Rays bench.

 

It is pretty clear that Tom Hallion was out of line here. MLB is even reviewing the situation.

LOL. I guess you see what you want.

 

And by put his head down and walk to the dugout, you mean he turns to Hallion and barks at him. You can't see Hallion walking towards Price, in fact he's standing there absolutely stationary in the brief clip you can see of him.

 

In the very last clip you can see a zoomed in view of Hallion with the Rays bench in the background. To say he's all the way over by the Rays bench is incorrect.

 

Of course MLB is reviewing the situation. They review a lot of things. I'm sure every ejection is reviewed. Add it on to Price taking it to Twitter etc, of course it's reviewed.

[ptatc]

I'm still waiting to see why saying a swear word is the most egregious thing you've ever seen in your life.

 

OMG he said a swear word, something players and managers do all the time (hell, Price could have been saying one during any of his yelling).

 

 

LOL. I guess you see what you want.

 

And by put his head down and walk to the dugout, you mean he turns to Hallion and barks at him. You can't see Hallion walking towards Price, in fact he's standing there absolutely stationary in the brief clip you can see of him.

 

In the very last clip you can see a zoomed in view of Hallion with the Rays bench in the background. To say he's all the way over by the Rays bench is incorrect.

 

Of course MLB is reviewing the situation. They review a lot of things. I'm sure every ejection is reviewed. Add it on to Price taking it to Twitter etc, of course it's reviewed.

 

It's not much the swearing, although I disagree that it shouldn't be penalized. It's the official losing his temper on the field. That should never happen. If the player did something to elicit that response he should be warned then ejected if it happens again. If the person who is supposed to keep the game under control can't keep himself under control it will effect the game.

 

In this situation if Price was arguing balls and strikes, the umpire is within his rights to eject him immediately.

[southsider2k5]

I'm still waiting to see why saying a swear word is the most egregious thing you've ever seen in your life.

 

OMG he said a swear word, something players and managers do all the time (hell, Price could have been saying one during any of his yelling).

 

 

LOL. I guess you see what you want.

 

And by put his head down and walk to the dugout, you mean he turns to Hallion and barks at him. You can't see Hallion walking towards Price, in fact he's standing there absolutely stationary in the brief clip you can see of him.

 

In the very last clip you can see a zoomed in view of Hallion with the Rays bench in the background. To say he's all the way over by the Rays bench is incorrect.

 

Of course MLB is reviewing the situation. They review a lot of things. I'm sure every ejection is reviewed. Add it on to Price taking it to Twitter etc, of course it's reviewed.

 

Speaking of seeing what you want, he doesn't say a word to the umpire until Hallion yells at him. Then, and only then, does he say something.

 

On top of that, if the behavior was OK, like you say, why would MLB need to review it? There would be nothing to review, right?

[southsider2k5]

It's not much the swearing, although I disagree that it shouldn't be penalized. It's the official losing his temper on the field. That should never happen. If the player did something to elicit that response he should be warned then ejected if it happens again. If the person who is supposed to keep the game under control can't keep himself under control it will effect the game.

 

In this situation if Price was arguing balls and strikes, the umpire is within his rights to eject him immediately.

 

Exactly. This 100%

[cabiness42]

I'm still waiting to see why saying a swear word is the most egregious thing you've ever seen in your life.

 

OMG he said a swear word, something players and managers do all the time (hell, Price could have been saying one during any of his yelling).

 

 

LOL. I guess you see what you want.

 

And by put his head down and walk to the dugout, you mean he turns to Hallion and barks at him. You can't see Hallion walking towards Price, in fact he's standing there absolutely stationary in the brief clip you can see of him.

 

In the very last clip you can see a zoomed in view of Hallion with the Rays bench in the background. To say he's all the way over by the Rays bench is incorrect.

 

Of course MLB is reviewing the situation. They review a lot of things. I'm sure every ejection is reviewed. Add it on to Price taking it to Twitter etc, of course it's reviewed.

 

There are some words that, when said by a player or manager to an umpire, lead to automatic ejection. It's pretty logical to conclude that it's not OK for the umpire to say any of those same words to a player or manager.

 

I don't think the umpire is walking towards Price, but it's pretty clear from how Price's head suddenly turns that direction that the umpire is saying something to him, which is out of line for an umpire since the next pitch had happened. Once the next pitch has been thrown, the issue is over and it's time to move on, and it's a dick move to say something then.

 

[Brian]

Gio's been pretty bad since he faced us.

 

Roids speculation in winter, now this.

[LittleHurt05]

Gio's been pretty bad since he faced us.

 

Roids speculation in winter, now this.

 

And Strasburg's elbow hurts. I hope the Nationals crash & burn.

[witesoxfan]

And Strasburg's elbow hurts. I hope the Nationals crash & burn.

 

Good thing they shut Strasburg down in September.

[IlliniKrush]

Speaking of seeing what you want, he doesn't say a word to the umpire until Hallion yells at him. Then, and only then, does he say something.

 

On top of that, if the behavior was OK, like you say, why would MLB need to review it? There would be nothing to review, right?

Seeing what you want, Price is yelling then Hallion (likely) says something as we can't see, then Price starts yelling again.

 

I already explained why, go back and read the other post.

 

There are some words that, when said by a player or manager to an umpire, lead to automatic ejection. It's pretty logical to conclude that it's not OK for the umpire to say any of those same words to a player or manager.

 

I don't think the umpire is walking towards Price, but it's pretty clear from how Price's head suddenly turns that direction that the umpire is saying something to him, which is out of line for an umpire since the next pitch had happened. Once the next pitch has been thrown, the issue is over and it's time to move on, and it's a dick move to say something then.

Price kept it going after the inning. He's going to get a response. Hallion responded because of 1) the body language after the pitch and then 2) Price b****ing about if afterwards. Tell Price to move on.