witesoxfan Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I can honestly say Olt is a guy that doesn't pique my interest at all. I hope the Sox stay away from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 15, 2013 -> 07:53 PM) General twitter rumors suggesting Garza to Rangers for Olt and a pitching prospect is possible How would people feel about that as a Peavy return? Would that even be a possible Peavy return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 02:45 PM) How would people feel about that as a Peavy return? Would that even be a possible Peavy return? Depends on the pitching prospect in return, but I've seen some stats on Olt since his eye surgery and he's been crushing the ball. He would automatically be the best prospect the Sox have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 09:45 AM) How would people feel about that as a Peavy return? Would that even be a possible Peavy return? I'd probably be fine with it, if the pitching prospect had high upside. 3B is a position of need so I'm fine taking a gamble on a once top prospect that has struggled lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Aside from Olt's crazy power potential, he's also posted a career minor league OBP of damn near .400. That's a guy I'll take a chance on, assuming that his vision issues aren't a long term concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Yeah, Olt would be an overpay of grand proportions for a half season of Garza. I would be jumping in if I were Hahn, because we can offer better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 04:02 PM) Yeah, Olt would be an overpay of grand proportions for a half season of Garza. Texas doesn't want to go out like the Buffalo Bills, so I'm guessing that they'll overpay for Garza or Peavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 10:12 AM) Texas doesn't want to go out like the Buffalo Bills, so I'm guessing that they'll overpay for Garza or Peavy. With all of their injuries, I think they'd be better off paying less for two starters. They almost need quantity more than quality. Plus, their trade for a Cubs SP last season didn't go very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 04:16 PM) With all of their injuries, I think they'd be better off paying less for two starters. They almost need quantity more than quality. Plus, their trade for a Cubs SP last season didn't go very well. Darvish and Ogando will be back within the next week. You get Garza or Peavy, and your playoff rotation is looking like this: 1. Darvish 2. Garza/Peavy 3. Holland 4. Ogando That works. Edited July 16, 2013 by hammerhead johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 10:44 AM) Darvish and Ogando will be back within the next week. You get Garza or Peavy, and your playoff rotation is looking like this: 1. Darvish 2. Garza/Peavy 3. Holland 4. Ogando That works. Good point, I underestimated how soon they are coming back too. I stand by my point of not trading for a Cubs SP again, Hahn is ready & willing Texas, get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Tom Loxas reporting Cubs are trying to get Neftali Feliz for Garza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 02:47 PM) Tom Loxas reporting Cubs are trying to get Neftali Feliz for Garza The Rangers would be incredibly stupid if they did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 David Kaplan tweeted that he interviewed Bob Nightengale for SportsTalkChi Live today and Nightengale said that Profar is in play in the Garza talks. Hang on....wait for it...HAHAHAHAHA....I love this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 05:26 PM) David Kaplan tweeted that he interviewed Bob Nightengale for SportsTalkChi Live today and Nightengale said that Profar is in play in the Garza talks. Hang on....wait for it...HAHAHAHAHA....I love this time of year. Wow, Theo must be paying Nightengale quite a bit of money to "leak" that nugget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 I love how the Cubs just now act like the Sosa era never happened. Paul Sullivan @PWSullivan 1h Junior Lake gets Sammy Sosa's No. 21. Bogie to DL. Henry Rodriguez clears waivers, sent to Iowa. Garza still in limbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Jeffy baby finna get rocked tonight. I'll be praying for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Way to go, Jeff. Road stats: 10 GS 2.56 ERA 1.00 WHIP .194 BAA 9 K/IP 3.5 K/BB Going into St. Louis, Cincinnati, Colorado, etc and waxing the competition. If only his home stats matched up with what he did in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Here was the supposed deal for Garza. Would have been a nice deal for the Cubs and it bodes well for White Sox return on Peavy in my opinion. Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 3m #Cubs-#Rangers stalled deal was Garza + another #Cub to #Rangers for Neil Ramirez, Luis Sardinas, Mike Olt, CJ Edwards per @JeffWilson_FWST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Since when is Garza this must-have ace? That would have been an incredible deal for the Cubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 02:49 PM) Since when is Garza this must-have ace? That would have been an incredible deal for the Cubs. That's one hell of a deal. It was speculated that the other play was Schierholtz or James Russell going to Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 FWIW, Jon Heyman says contending GMs see Peavy as a better get than Garza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 04:30 PM) FWIW, Jon Heyman says contending GMs see Peavy as a better get than Garza And also today is a day that ends in Y. And Mark Prior is hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 05:54 PM) And also today is a day that ends in Y. And Mark Prior is hurt. Worth pointing out since the Chicago media seems to think the Sox couldn't give Peavy away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 FWIW, Jon Heyman says contending GMs see Peavy as a better get than Garza [/quote Jake, I posted that Heyman article in the Peavy trade thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friend of Nordhagen Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 02:49 PM) Since when is Garza this must-have ace? That would have been an incredible deal for the Cubs. Since TheoAndJed, Inc. started spinning and falsely leaking for the 4 dupes that cover the Cubs in Chicago and the 3 suck-up morons who cover baseball nationally. The hype on this yutz is insane. As I seem to recall, Garza isn't an ace and is typically injured. Though I know that it's very "retro" to judge a pitcher by wins, his top number -- secured just once and never to be even nearly achieved again -- was 15 (which, incidentally, puts him one ahead of the highest single-season win total of the great historical Cub ace, Kerry Wood). So, because that metric is so archaic, let's just say that his "peripherals" include being a clubhouse jackass. Ridiculous. Edited July 21, 2013 by Friend of Nordhagen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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