Soxfest Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) Rangers wanted Garza and targeted him from the beginning and got there man. Garza for Olt, Edwards, Grimm and a player to be named later. Deal is done. Per Mlbrumors Edited July 22, 2013 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 4m Final deal: Cubs trade Matt Garza to the Rangers for Mike Olt, C.J. Edwards, Justin Grimm and PTBNL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Posting from lake victoria tanzania via ipad mini haha Wish the white sox could have gotten this haul...it was the perfect trade for the sox, not the cubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 09:19 PM) What exactly are the Cubs gonna do with Olt? 1st base is locked up, and if I am to believe the hype, Bryant should be in the majors at 3B very soon. Can he play in the outfield? One of Bryant/Olt will end up in left field. This trade was magnificent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Lots of risk, decent upside in this deal. Hard to say what will come of Olt - I've always loved him but this concussion/vision business is troubling. Tough to say what will happen with Edwards, I'll be interested to see if the Cubs promote him from low-A where he is old-ish. I'm not a fan of Grimm, but he could develop into a decent enough NL starter, so not a bad third piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 11:23 PM) One of Bryant/Olt will end up in left field. This trade was magnificent. I liked the original trade that was rumored much more where they were getting Sardinas and Ramirez. Grimm is garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 10:30 PM) Grimm is garbage. As a starter, perhaps. But maybe he'll turn out to be a nice bullpen piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 04:30 PM) I liked the original trade that was rumored much more where they were getting Sardinas and Ramirez. Grimm is garbage. Nobody is garbage in the nl, look at clayton richard, eric stults or even liriano this season. Just know that olt would have had a good shot shot at third for us, but maybe conor turns out to be the answer, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 04:30 PM) I liked the original trade that was rumored much more where they were getting Sardinas and Ramirez. Grimm is garbage. Nobody is garbage in the nl, look at clayton richard, eric stults or even liriano this season. Just know that olt would have had a good shot shot at third for us, but maybe conor turns out to be the answer, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 05:25 PM) Lots of risk, decent upside in this deal. Hard to say what will come of Olt - I've always loved him but this concussion/vision business is troubling. Tough to say what will happen with Edwards, I'll be interested to see if the Cubs promote him from low-A where he is old-ish. I'm not a fan of Grimm, but he could develop into a decent enough NL starter, so not a bad third piece. The funny thing is we all know how the reaction would go if the Sox traded for someone who was currently injured. This deal, it isn't even a peep on the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 23, 2013 -> 12:08 AM) The funny thing is we all know how the reaction would go if the Sox traded for someone who was currently injured. This deal, it isn't even a peep on the radar. Peavy? But yeah I'm happy to stay away from Olt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 03:30 PM) I liked the original trade that was rumored much more where they were getting Sardinas and Ramirez. Grimm is garbage. And Edwards is a 40 something round draft pick that makes Gio Gonzales look like a big guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 05:23 PM) One of Bryant/Olt will end up in left field. This trade was magnificent. I hate you with all my heart, but even I will admit it was a great trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 The Rangers better be locking up Garza to an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Cubs are going to have the #1 ranked farm system, aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 06:28 PM) Cubs are going to have the #1 ranked farm system, aren't they? That will look great next to their attendance trophies. This deal, in a couple years, could look like a "meh" deal or it could look really good. Not bad when you really HAD to move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 23, 2013 -> 12:32 AM) That will look great next to their attendance trophies. With the money they'll have to spend, they're going to use a lot of these prospects to go after the likes of David Price, etc. Their organization is in a far better place now than it was a year ago, despite the lack of improvement by Castro. Especially if there are two PTBNL and Ramirez is one of them, this was an incredible deal by the Cubs. The Rangers are giving up more for Garza than they did for Cliff Lee. Edited July 22, 2013 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I also wonder if the Cubs are going to try and get Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez this week to help their horrible pitching going forward the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 06:32 PM) That will look great next to their attendance trophies. This deal, in a couple years, could look like a "meh" deal or it could look really good. Not bad when you really HAD to move him. No doubt the trade may not ultimately work out since prospects typically bust, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't applaud the return as it currently stands today. Theo played the market well and was able to get a quality return for Garza. I hate saying that but it's the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 06:34 PM) With the money they'll have to spend, they're going to use a lot of these prospects to go after the likes of David Price, etc. Their organization is in a far better place now than it was a year ago, despite the lack of improvement by Castro. Especially if there are two PTBNL and Ramirez is one of them, this was an incredible deal by the Cubs. The Rangers are giving up more for Garza than they did for Cliff Lee. I'll stand by what I've said for a while -- they'll be good once they buy some good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 23, 2013 -> 12:45 AM) I'll stand by what I've said for a while -- they'll be good once they buy some good players. And they're in great position to do so the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 06:50 PM) And they're in great position to do so the next few years. Might need new management if they are to do something other than give out horrible contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 06:34 PM) With the money they'll have to spend, they're going to use a lot of these prospects to go after the likes of David Price, etc. Their organization is in a far better place now than it was a year ago, despite the lack of improvement by Castro. Especially if there are two PTBNL and Ramirez is one of them, this was an incredible deal by the Cubs. The Rangers are giving up more for Garza than they did for Cliff Lee. Justin Smoak was a top-15 prospect in all of baseball when the Cliff Lee trade went down, which is hard to believe if you have seen him play for the Mariners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times reports (via Twitter) that the Cubs can select right-hander Neil Ramirez as the PTBNL in the deal. However, if the Cubs select Ramirez, they will not receive a second PTBNL. Otherwise, they can select two other pitchers from the agreed upon list of names. Also, apparently the Cubs would have gotten Odor instead of Grimm but there were concerns about Garza's elbow (Evan Grant of Dallas Morning News reports) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Sounds like Cubs are also close to sending Soriano to the Yankees. http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/sor...z0N9Kn8CCldxIEK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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