Greg Hibbard Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/i...g-the-white-sox Some pretty interesting insights into the intangibles like Schneider that are never considered when evaluating this franchise Edited February 22, 2013 by Greg Hibbard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I would never blame injuries on trainers. They most of the time just happen. Herm has been able to keep the games lost to a minimum, but it is ironic he is getting some pub a year after the Sox were about as banged up as they have been since Herm has been around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 22, 2013 -> 02:33 PM) I would never blame injuries on trainers. They most of the time just happen. Herm has been able to keep the games lost to a minimum, but it is ironic he is getting some pub a year after the Sox were about as banged up as they have been since Herm has been around. If there's any non-randomness to injuries...that means figuring out how to reduce your total number of injuries is a type of moneyball...finding an advantage other teams don't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I'm not entirely convinced that our DL numbers aren't low because we have a baddish farm system and our starters like to play injured for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Feb 22, 2013 -> 04:35 PM) I'm not entirely convinced that our DL numbers aren't low because we have a baddish farm system and our starters like to play injured for some reason. If that was the case...then either the Sox should have a couple years of below-average DL appearances and a couple years of above-average DL appearances as injuries pile up...or the Sox should wind up underperforming their projections because they're playing too many guys who are hurt. Neither of these are the case so far. If they're over-playing hurt guys, they're still over-producing their expected wins almost every year, which means to me that they're getting better production out of the hurt guys they're playing than they would out of a replacement player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 22, 2013 -> 05:44 PM) If that was the case...then either the Sox should have a couple years of below-average DL appearances and a couple years of above-average DL appearances as injuries pile up...or the Sox should wind up underperforming their projections because they're playing too many guys who are hurt. Neither of these are the case so far. It just seems like every year we hear that Konerko had been injured for months of the season. Maybe that's just two years. BUT STILL! We went through it with Dunn, too. That wouldn't necessarily result in backloading DL trips if they recover over the offseason. Also, if, say, Konerko regularly plays injured it would be incorporated into his projections. I'm not married to the idea that this is true, but I am not at all convinced that Herm Schneider is magic either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) It seems the bigger point is the Sox pitching is consistently unrated for a hitters ballpark. Article on Quintana's off season http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/white-sox-t...esses-white-sox Edited February 22, 2013 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Nice wishful thinking article. The Sox have trouble beating the Royals. The Tiger have decent pitching too and probably a better pitching coach. I think they are still the team to beat in the AL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Feb 23, 2013 -> 01:09 AM) Nice wishful thinking article. The Sox have trouble beating the Royals. The Tiger have decent pitching too and probably a better pitching coach. I think they are still the team to beat in the AL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 In any given season, it is hard to blame trainers or conditioning coaches or pitching coaches for injuries - too much randonmess. But over many years, with the same staff in those positions, when you are consistently healthier than other teams (despite being older than average many years)... it is time to acknowledge there is a positive trend there. No doubt in my mind, they deserve some credit for it, and the formulas just don't adjust for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Feb 23, 2013 -> 12:09 AM) Nice wishful thinking article. The Sox have trouble beating the Royals. The Tiger have decent pitching too and probably a better pitching coach. I think they are still the team to beat in the AL. Don Cooper is the best pitching coach in the game. It's not even worth debating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I think that kitekrazy is my favorite poster on here. The guy is a comedic genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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