southsider2k5 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 2, 2013 -> 07:28 PM) Why make it private? This is a public story. Poor Alford, let's not talk about it publicly... Rich Bernstein, making money off of it. Class act. Finding people who have already been taken advantage of, to take advantage of more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 2, 2013 -> 07:36 PM) Rich Bernstein, making money off of it. Class act. Finding people who have already been taken advantage of, to take advantage of more. I like "take advantage of," like the victim. Alford's been taken advantage of? LMAO. How about Rich Alford? He lied in his press conference. That's reason enough to have it brought up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 2, 2013 -> 07:36 PM) Rich Bernstein, making money off of it. Class act. Finding people who have already been taken advantage of, to take advantage of more. Why wouldn't he take a smear campaign public? That line of criticism makes no sense. Ps his name is dan not rich Edited April 3, 2013 by StrangeSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 2, 2013 -> 07:42 PM) I like "take advantage of," like the victim. Alford's been taken advantage of? LMAO. How about Rich Alford? He lied in his press conference. That's reason enough to have it brought up again. He's got molestation and rape taken care of. Anyone else he can take advantage of? Maybe someone can find him some genocide victims to make some money off of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 2, 2013 -> 08:04 PM) Why wouldn't he take a smear campaign public? That line of criticism makes no sense. Ps his name is dan not rich Rich as in the money is he making off of these situations. That is mocking the "poor" being used in the responded to post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 (I know! it was an intentionally bad joke) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 07:42 AM) He's got molestation and rape taken care of. Anyone else he can take advantage of? Maybe someone can find him some genocide victims to make some money off of? Does the fact that Bob Woodward made a 40 year career off of Watergate mean that he shouldn't have reported Watergate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Jesus, SS2K, you are clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 2, 2013 -> 07:28 PM) Why make it private? This is a public story. Poor Alford, let's not talk about it publicly... Why wait until now? This happened 7 or 8 years ago. Why has Berstein waited until Alford got a huge job if he isn't looking for pub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 08:19 AM) Why wait until now? This happened 7 or 8 years ago. Why has Berstein waited until Alford got a huge job if he isn't looking for pub? He doesn't forget. Nor should he in this instance. I'd say he's just "looking for pub" if he hadn't been consistently after Alford for the BS he got away with from the onset. And Bernstein was also ahead of the story with regards to Penn State. How dare the man have some conviction in his profession - especially with regards to sexual assault! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 08:26 AM) He doesn't forget. Nor should he in this instance. I'd say he's just "looking for pub" if he hadn't been consistently after Alford for the BS he got away with from the onset. And Bernstein was also ahead of the story with regards to Penn State. How dare the man have some conviction in his profession - especially with regards to sexual assault! His rant isn't as much about Steve Alford, because if it was, he wouldn't have ignored it the entire time Alford was at NM, it's about getting Dan Berstein's name in the paper, on the internet, and on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 08:40 AM) His rant isn't as much about Steve Alford, because if it was, he wouldn't have ignored it the entire time Alford was at NM, it's about getting Dan Berstein's name in the paper, on the internet, and on TV. I really don't like Bernstein, but I don't think that's the case. He just goes over the top when he's passionate about something. It's pretty clear he hates Alford and to his credit, he did have Alford on his show years ago and called him out on the air about the incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord chas Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 08:40 AM) His rant isn't as much about Steve Alford, because if it was, he wouldn't have ignored it the entire time Alford was at NM, it's about getting Dan Berstein's name in the paper, on the internet, and on TV. Exactly. Now that Alford takes a high profile job Bernstein is stirring it all up again. GMAFB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 1. Bernstein is an asshole. 2. Alford is an asshole for attempting to cover up a sexual assault. 3. Bernstein advising new media guys that may or may not know of Alford's assholery past is not an asshole move. /end debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 08:48 AM) 1. Bernstein is an asshole. 2. Alford is an asshole for attempting to cover up a sexual assault. 3. Bernstein advising new media guys that may or may not know of Alford's assholery past is not an asshole move. /end debate. Pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (lord chas @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 08:45 AM) Exactly. Now that Alford takes a high profile job Bernstein is stirring it all up again. GMAFB Right, now that Alford's been given a high-profile job and his past is being swept under the rug, Bernstein is dragging it back out. Does he stand to gain from that? Sure. So did every media organization that reported on the Penn State scandal, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't report on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 08:48 AM) 1. Bernstein is an asshole. 2. Alford is an asshole for attempting to cover up a sexual assault. 3. Bernstein advising new media guys that may or may not know of Alford's assholery past is not an asshole move. /end debate. QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 08:55 AM) Pretty much. On this day, the 3rd of April, upon with Jenks and Strange have agreed, Hell hath frozen over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 08:59 AM) On this day, the 3rd of April, upon with Jenks and Strange have agreed, Hell hath frozen over /end soxtalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IlliniKrush Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 08:14 AM) Jesus, SS2K, you are clueless. Alford's his friend or something, so yeah, let's do anything to make Bernstein look like the bad guy. It's a story worth revisiting since he's at UCLA now, one of, if not, the best program in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 09:13 AM) Alford's his friend or something, so yeah, let's do anything to make Bernstein look like the bad guy. It's a story worth revisiting since he's at UCLA now, one of, if not, the best program in the country. Do you think UCLA had the info when hiring him? Why should a radio station in Chicago care who UCLA hires as a basketball coach? There are scumbags being hired left and right in the NCAA, professional sports, etc. His own station hired Dan McNeil who has had several problems over the years. Did he go on a rant about him? I don't want to minimilze what Pierre Pierce did. Alford's problem was he believed his story. If it were someone you were close to and believed his story and realized what a false accusation could do to his life, isn't it at least possible what Alford did wouldn't seem so outlandish? False claims are made every day, especially college aged women. Unfortunately for Alford, this wasn't a false claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) Alford's problem wasn't that "he believed his story," jesus christ. "Unfortunately for Alford" Edited April 3, 2013 by StrangeSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 09:27 AM) Alford's problem wasn't that "he believed his story," jesus christ. "Unfortunately for Alford" Yeah, that wasn't the biggest problem. This wasn't someone giving benefit of the doubt (IIRC he pleaded guilty anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 09:27 AM) Alford's problem wasn't that "he believed his story," jesus christ. Yes it was. If he thought he was guilty, he would have thrown him off the team, and none of this crap would have ever happened, and which he did when the second incident occurred which wasn't as serious, and Pierce told him he was innocent again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 09:25 AM) Do you think UCLA had the info when hiring him? Why should a radio station in Chicago care who UCLA hires as a basketball coach? There are scumbags being hired left and right in the NCAA, professional sports, etc. His own station hired Dan McNeil who has had several problems over the years. Did he go on a rant about him? I don't want to minimilze what Pierre Pierce did. Alford's problem was he believed his story. If it were someone you were close to and believed his story and realized what a false accusation could do to his life, isn't it at least possible what Alford did wouldn't seem so outlandish? False claims are made every day, especially college aged women. Unfortunately for Alford, this wasn't a false claim. Why should a radio station in Chicago care about it? LOL. Because it's a sports radio station? Are they limited to Chicago talk only? Again, big story because he went to UCLA now. People are learning a lot more now than when he was at Iowa or New Mexico. I guarantee a ton of people had no clue about a lot of it when they announced the hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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